Excellent sterilisation rant in the Guardian January 28, 2015 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 379 |
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We’re fortunate to live in a country [the UK] where women’s healthcare is mostly progressive and fair, where abortions can be obtained and contraceptives are free. But ask the NHS for a sterilisation in your 20s, and every door is slammed in your face. I should know: I’ve asked four times in the last three years and been refused every time.
The first time I asked for a permanent end to my fertility I was 26. I was recently out of a long relationship where we both agreed on a child-free life and back on the dating scene. Explaining my child-free stance to stranger after stranger was wearing, but made me think harder about why I’d made my choice. As I repeatedly explained, I’ve probably put more thought into my decision not to have children than many people put into their decision to have them.
The condescension came thick and fast: you’re too young, you’ll change your mind, who’ll look after you in your old age, how can any woman not want children, how can you be so selfish? Even people who only seemed interested in casual dating would instantly lose interest when I mentioned my disinclination to reproduce – one man walked away in the middle of a three-minute speed-dating session because I didn’t want to be a mother. Clearly, other people felt as strongly about my decision as I did.
Unfortunately, so did the first GP I spoke to. He trotted out all the usual comments (to strong opposition), followed by telling me he couldn’t “in good conscience†make a permanent decision when I was still “so youngâ€. Having hoped for at least an in-depth discussion before being rejected, I was disappointed but not surprised. Resigned to another year of side-effects on the pill, I asked the GP to put a comment in my medical notes so I could build a stronger case later.
For the record, the reason I don’t want children is both simple and complex. I just don’t want them. I never have.
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exile
On a less morbid view, at least some real child free people are on there, pointing out some good tricks like lieing about having bred just to get their operations done young, interesting tip, so if you say hey I tried, now I don't want to anymore, their okay with that
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Does that actually work? I was under the impression that gyns could tell if a woman has sluiced or not. It's crossed my mind quite a few times to lie (I'm in Tx, which should tell you all you need to know, it's a fucking cesspool), but I've always thought they would figure it out rather quickly and then I'd have another strike against me for lying.
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starlady
Umm... who are these girls who don't start periods till 14 or 15? I was 12! That was 50 years ago. Girls now days start as early as 9....but I think that may be because of hormones in food.
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starlady
Umm... who are these girls who don't start periods till 14 or 15? I was 12! That was 50 years ago. Girls now days start as early as 9....but I think that may be because of hormones in food.
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Presto
I'm sorry, I'm a geek. I got mine at 11 personally, continuing the downward trend, and that would have been in 1989.
http://www.mum.org/menarage.htm
Scroll down to see the various graphs and conclusions, etc.
Plenty more from Google when searching "change in age of menarche".
I just had to quibble with Zelda quipping that they were popping them out at 14-15 not so long ago. Sure there were probably exceptions just like the youngest mothers we occasionally see mention of having them at 9, nowadays. It just wasn't a regular occurrence.
I still hope it is a rarity to give birth at 14-15 now, but I'm sure it is becoming more and more common. Still it shouldn't be considered a regular thing, even today with grade schoolers on the rag.
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paragon schnitzophonic
So, finances willing, I could be sterilized with no hesitation! I've already exhausted my deductible and most of my out-of-pocket maximum with a surgery earlier in the month, so it might be relatively inexpensive. So fingers crossed.
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On some men's and conservative (i.e., right wing nutjob) sites, a toxic little meme has appeared often over the last several years that age of consent and statutory rape laws are "unfair" because girls were supposedly being routinely married at age 13–15 100–200 years ago. Every time I see this, I do my best to demolish it. The men posting this garbage seem to have fantasies of having been able to marry and bang a 14–year-old girl had they only lived in 1900 instead of 2015. In other words, these guys have secret pedo fantasies.
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This whole subject intrigues me from the Psychological aspect - I do wonder WHY? It isn't Pedophilia either - because that's a lust for pre pubescent children. Teen girls with boobs, hips, and periods are not children, they're teens, or young adults. Adolescents. Pedophiles want pre pubescent children and in fact are not attracted to those who have matured.
So then we have to wonder - WHY do grown men want a young girl / woman like this? And it can't be just looks because plenty of older women look just fine such as Demi Moore, Jennifer Anniston, etc.
So WHAT is it? They must want someone young because they think they are "trainable". Naive. And in fact I've seen this exactly stated - I will look at some of these Conservative sites too, mostly the political or news ones, but you will see men bring up these topics too. And they will often state that they 'want one' that 'can be trained'. VOMIT. In a sim vein they often talk about "over seas women" who "aren't corrupted by Western ideas". Some go farther to say that if you want one of those - you best *move to that country* - so the woman does not get 'infected with' Western Feminazism.
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