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I don't think it's people thinking the kids of gay people will be mutated, I'm thinking it might be mutation caused by this kind of extremely experimental genetic manipulation they are discussing in the article. If conventional IVF from male-female risks a bunch of defects already, imagine having the DNA of two women or two men mashed together. Sometimes trying to be this hetero-normative isn't worth the potential suffering that this kind of experimental science risks bringing on a child.Quote
Presto
Me and husband are a family, no children required to make it official.
Who really thinks the progeny of gay people will be mutated? It's straight people who keep having gay babies, and gay couples who already use surrogates for producing children often use other gay friends, lesbians surrogating for gay male couples, gay men contributing sperm for lesbian couples, and the resulting children are just as likely to be LGBT as any children of your average hetero couple.
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I don't care if a person is gay or straight, trans or bi if they want to have a kyd. If they can't naturally have one, then they should adopt.
Using surrogacy, IVF or any other unnatural method to bring more humans onto the planet is plain selfish. I don't care who they are. ALL breeders, IMO, are just fucking selfish.
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nokidsandhappy
As a gay male childless couple, I am happy as a pig in the proverbial not to have or ever want kids, and my partner is the same. For us personally, it's just not important nor is it a biological desire. The few gay couples I have talked to who want kids, comes down to biological desire for kids, peer pressure from social quarters, skewed belief of furthering gay rights and heteronormilisation of homosexuality. Similarly to heterosexuals, homosexuals aren't immune to wanting kids for selfish reasons - as it's not ABOUT the kid, but rather what the kid DOES FOR them. In this case, gay breeders are nothing more than gay moos, or Goos.
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nokidsandhappy
It's so true Catharsist, the greater the general acceptance and normalization of LGBTI, the greater the decline in individuality attributed to it. I love the freedoms and progressiveness that comes with being a part of this group, and I too find it quite disturbing that the queer culture is dying, in preference for conformity. I think that this is due to the fact that some in our culture want so desperately to be accepted into heterosexuality, that they're willing to give up what is unique and set us apart. Sorry, but acceptance mean accepting us for what we are completely, not just accepting the more heteronormilised parts of us. To me the whole gay having kids thing, is akin to gays living as straights -marrying opposite sexes and breeding - in actuality it's more of a progression of it. However, this us my opinion, and if it works for others - good for them. Although, as studio54 asked, the few friends I have seen with kids also seem to be having a shitty time parenting, but they would never accept it, rather believe that these problems are simply not their creating but be somehow related to the ills of society. Hence Goo lowing.
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I worked with a gay man in his late 40s/early 50s in the early 2000s. He thought the idea of gay marriage, parenting, and the "white picket fence" LifeScript for gays was ridiculous. According to him, gay men who wanted either were basically poseurs.
And then there's my attorney friend who loves the idea of gay marriage, adoption, and gays involved really in all areas of family law, 1. Because they deserve the opportunity for both, and 2. Because without gay marriage and child rearing, you don't have gay divorce and child custody disputes. Never underestimate the power of the profit motive, I suppose
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Sometimes, I do wonder, why was the push for gay marriage so strong? I understand rights and all of that, but here is what is really suspicious. GOP supports it. GOP, historically, has supported just about everything that had money tied into it.
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StudioFiftyFour
I worked with a gay man in his late 40s/early 50s in the early 2000s. He thought the idea of gay marriage, parenting, and the "white picket fence" LifeScript for gays was ridiculous. According to him, gay men who wanted either were basically poseurs.
And then there's my attorney friend who loves the idea of gay marriage, adoption, and gays involved really in all areas of family law, 1. Because they deserve the opportunity for both, and 2. Because without gay marriage and child rearing, you don't have gay divorce and child custody disputes. Never underestimate the power of the profit motive, I suppose
Sometimes, I do wonder, why was the push for gay marriage so strong? I understand rights and all of that, but here is what is really suspicious. GOP supports it. GOP, historically, has supported just about everything that had money tied into it.
If people of any sexual orientation would like to get married, great. But I think that our society and our laws have changed so much in the last 50 years, that marriage itself is becoming a little nostalgic. There are cases where it is the only way something can take place, but number of those cases are dropping. Immigration, tax and government pension laws are still written around marriage, but, other things, not so much.
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catharsist
If someone wants marriage, it should be because they wanted marriage, not the privilege and tax breaks that come with it.