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The Author, on immortality...
But we can imagine those lives, and the ones following from them down through the ages, while we are alive, and know that something intangible about us will live on through them. Just as something equally intangible promises to live on from someone who devotes his life to the goods of honor or glory, or sacrifice for a noble cause.
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Why are people so convinced that they'll become immortal if they have children? I really don't get this concept at all. Death is a terrible thing that most humans are haunted by, to some degree, but it's not avoidable via having children. In fact, a few generations down the line, no one will know you, remember you, and chances are, they won't care enough to do any research into your life & times.
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Yeah, your kids will outlive you. But they are not YOU. They will have their own lives, with their own goals and values. Their lives after you're gone won't be lived FOR you.
Writings like this don't piss me off...idiots like this aren't worth getting worked up about. Mostly, I am amused by how deeply this guy sunk himself into denial.
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Ha. Yet another article written by someone who can't fucking STAND that we're not living child-centered lives: http://tinyurl.com/kq92k9o
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However, it should be pointed out that the resources that children need are heavily subsidized by those who do not have children. Sometimes guys like this need to be reminded that he and his children need successful, childfree people to keep working and paying taxes. It's not the other way around. If childfree folks pack their bags and offshore their jobs and bank accounts en masse, the shit will really hit the fan for western society.
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You bring up one concept that I didn't mention in my comments about this idiot.
I've always thought that "children as way to fight mortality" is a very unhealthy attitude. America in general is really, really bad at death. We don't handle it well, we don't want to talk about it (but couch it in optimistic-sounding terms, like "I prefer to focus on life!"), and we do everything we can to deny it. I think admitting that you'll someday be gone and likely forgotten is part of having a healthy relationship with your own mortality.
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He says that individuals who are childfree, when faced with annihilation, will feel a flood of regrets.
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There's something about this too that gives me a feeling of "Smart Shaming". Which is a term I just made up for when Pro Breeders denigrate the intelligent for not breeding.
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Do you want to hear about my Hedonistic after hours plans for next week? I'm going to wash my kitchen walls. BIG TIME EXCITEMENT! SUPER FUN PARTY TIME!!!
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Linker is concerned our liberal democracy—defined as one that emphasizes individual freedom, limits the power of the state, and the like—is threatened by traditionalist believers and radical atheists.
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They want to work hard and play hard, enjoying the fruits of their labor without the constraints, sacrifices, and trade-offs that come from raising kids. Children might be a good, but they're a good that would take away from what they consider to be the highest good, which is the enjoyment of pleasure. So they forgo having them.
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Ha. Yet another article written by someone who can't fucking STAND that we're not living child-centered lives: http://tinyurl.com/kq92k9o
He uses a lot of intellectual allusions to try and cover for it, but he has his drawers in big knots over the fact that CF live what he considers "pleasure-oriented" lives. A lot of his arguments are ones I've seen before, just with more philosophical name-dropping.
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We won't really be around to go on living through our children's lives, and the lives of their children. But we can imagine those lives, and the ones following from them down through the ages, while we are alive, and know that something intangible about us will live on through them. Just as something equally intangible promises to live on from someone who devotes his life to the goods of honor or glory, or sacrifice for a noble cause.
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