Classic rock musician on population growth (Ian Amderson, Jethro Tull) April 17, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 1,367 |
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paragon schnitzophonic
I don't know, I find it a little disingenuous for somebody to speak about this issue when they themselves have procreated. Maybe if his two kids were adopted I could totally get on board. Being conscious of it doesn't mean you're not part of the problem. Like vegans who pat themselves on the ass for having the bestest environmentally conscious diet, but then go on to breed because they apparently think their veganism outweighs anything else they do, never mind the fact that my omnivorous ass that is currently running two fans and two televisions (one acting as my computer monitor) will still have a lower carbon footprint for the mere nonaction of not having any fucking children.
Re: Classic rock musician on population growth (Ian Amderson, Jethro Tull) April 18, 2017 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 180 |
Yeah, I agree. The only reason why I didn't mention it, is because he at least acknowledges overpopulation is a problem, rather than being a typical stupid breeder, blinded by their rose colored glasses, thinking its no prob because most precious parasites are futureQuote
Paragon Schnitzophonic
I don't know, I find it a little disingenuous for somebody to speak about this issue when they themselves have procreated. Maybe if his two kids were adopted I could totally get on board. Being conscious of it doesn't mean you're not part of the problem. Like vegans who pat themselves on the ass for having the bestest environmentally conscious diet, but then go on to breed because they apparently think their veganism outweighs anything else they do, never mind the fact that my omnivorous ass that is currently running two fans and two televisions (one acting as my computer monitor) will still have a lower carbon footprint for the mere nonaction of not having any fucking children.
Re: Classic rock musician on population growth (Ian Amderson, Jethro Tull) April 18, 2017 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 1,231 |
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blackpearl
This. And you gotta love the breeders who just jump at your throat for not choosing some green trend. Like the woman with 3 brats who started judging me for using absorbants instead of menstrual cups.
Re: Classic rock musician on population growth (Ian Amderson, Jethro Tull) April 18, 2017 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 173 |
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Re: Classic rock musician on population growth (Ian Amderson, Jethro Tull) April 18, 2017 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 173 |
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kman
Ian does have an arrogant streak that comes across in numerous interviews, but in his defense he did have his two children back in the 1970s and they are around age 40 now. This was well before being childfree was really on the map, and the thought among those in the West who had concerns about overpopulation is that the "right" maximum number of kids was two as "replacement level". Many such people were actually appalled at the strict one-child policy China implemented in 1979.
By our standards here at Bratfree that logic of two kids for every couple is ridiculous, but thinking of stopping at two then was a big step for many people, especially since in some Third World countries in the 1970s the average number of births per woman was still 6 or more. In some Muslim countries it was as high as 8 per woman. The idea of choosing not to have children at all was simply not on very many people's radar then. Even Paul Ehrlich, who wrote the dire book The Population Bomb, did have one child instead of none.
I singled out Sting (Gordon Sumner) for a reason. His age is nearly the same as Ian Anderson's (65 v. 69 as I write this). But Sting kept fathering children with different women until the mid–1990s, ending with child No. 6, yet some years ago he had the gall to try to lecture the Third World about overpopulation. And Ian is arrogant?
Re: Classic rock musician on population growth (Ian Amderson, Jethro Tull) April 19, 2017 | Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 499 |
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happyhiker
Amen, S54! I'm a vegan without kids, so anytime I get a lecture from the garbage police for accidentally putting something recyclable into the trash (it has happened several times), it's a little too precious. I could never turn my lights off, leave water running for the rest of my life and eat off nothing but styrofoam that I throw out the window of a Hummer and never get near the average "eco-parent's" environmental destruction.
Sting is a hideous person. Lecturing about over-population? Really?