"It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 16, 2018 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 12,434 |
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“My failure at fatherhood ate away at my very being,” he says. “Friends later told me that my body was physically hunched from the emotional weight of my baby wait. I didn’t want to talk about it to anyone. I would walk past children playing in the park and I’d feel my heart breaking into tiny pieces. I would oscillate wildly between anger and depression. After learning a friend of ours was pregnant, I didn’t leave my bedroom for two days.”
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One study held in Edinburgh showed sperm counts declining from an average of 100m spm in 1950 to 50m spm in 1990. Another conducted among sperm donors in France suggested that healthy sperm levels were dropping by 2% a year. It’s figures like these that encourage the postulation of doomsday scenarios, familiar from science fiction, in which humanity risks extinction.
Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 16, 2018 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 344 |
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“He told me: ‘You’ve got no sperm. You can’t have a family.’ That was just a five minute-conversation. He knew I was at work but he didn’t think twice about delivering the news and hanging up. There was no offer to come in and have a chat, to explain or help with what the impact might be.”
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“The remarkable thing about ART (assisted reproductive technology) is that even when it’s the male problem, it’s the female that has to undergo treatment. What sort of equality is that?”
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“I remember going to see the doctor to get the announcement of the test and hoping that it wasn’t me. Hoping that it was her fault.”
Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 16, 2018 | Registered: 19 years ago Posts: 9,199 |
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Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 16, 2018 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,976 |
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bell_flower
Of course he wanted to go for more because it wasn't his body that was being subjected to medical procedures. . She probably only did it because he would have left her had she not been successful.
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He spent most of his 30s trying to have a child, and the failure to do so left him depressed, he says, sometimes in tears, and “hiding under the duvet”.
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“He told me: ‘You’ve got no sperm. You can’t have a family.’...There was no offer to come in and have a chat, to explain or help with what the impact might be.
Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 16, 2018 | Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 2,364 |
Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 16, 2018 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,712 |
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He spent most of his 30s trying to have a child, and the failure to do so left him depressed, he says, sometimes in tears, and “hiding under the duvet”.
If I sat around for a majority of a decade trying to reproduce, I'd be crying under the duvet too, but not because I failed at breeding. Because I failed at living.
Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 17, 2018 | Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 619 |
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Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 18, 2018 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 672 |
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Cambion
Also, why is it that masculinity is determined by a man's ability to reproduce? We have an odd definition of "manly," it seems - it's a guy who is straight and fertile, apparently. Meanwhile, most Duhs are the biggest pussies you'll ever meet. There's a lot more that goes into being a man than the viability of their sperm. Why do we have to attach so much meaning and value to someone's ability to breed like it's the only thing that matters?
Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 18, 2018 | Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 132 |
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The majority of men (from what I've seen) today *are* huge fucking pussies. Culture tells them it's their role to be clueless, lazy idiots. There's no push anymore for a man to be masculine, strong or capable. It's great that less men are acting like sexist pigs and feel more comfortable with emotions, but FFS, it's hard to find any of these ball-less wonders attractive.
Of course Mr Metrosexual has low sperm count and blubbers over it and hides under the "duvet". He's basically a bitch on his period.
Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 19, 2018 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,976 |
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stillwaters
My ex husband would throw a tantrum every time it would snow because he'd have to get up early and dig out his car. If his ass wasn't on the couch watching porn or playing video games he would sulk. He was a fucking toddler with a job.
The majority of men (from what I've seen) today *are* huge fucking pussies. Culture tells them it's their role to be clueless, lazy idiots. There's no push anymore for a man to be masculine, strong or capable. It's great that less men are acting like sexist pigs and feel more comfortable with emotions, but FFS, it's hard to find any of these ball-less wonders attractive
Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 19, 2018 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 7,835 |
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My ex husband would throw a tantrum every time it would snow because he'd have to get up early and dig out his car. If his ass wasn't on the couch watching porn or playing video games he would sulk. He was a fucking toddler with a job.
The majority of men (from what I've seen) today *are* huge fucking pussies. Culture tells them it's their role to be clueless, lazy idiots. There's no push anymore for a man to be masculine, strong or capable. It's great that less men are acting like sexist pigs and feel more comfortable with emotions, but FFS, it's hard to find any of these ball-less wonders attractive
Oh dear lord, I know a handful of guys who pout about everything and they can be very difficult to be around. Grown-ass men pouting because they didn't get exactly their own way, didn't get what they wanted the second they wanted it, or taking something completely out of context and getting upset about it. I understand being annoyed about some things, but have you ever seen a grown man pout for six straight hours because you accidentally unknowingly said something that reminded him of something sad that someone said to him ten years ago? It's very hard to feel sorry for them.
I'm glad to see that we're slowly creeping away from the expectation that men can't show emotion for any reason, but some of these guys just take that inch and run clear across the globe with it. I don't think a guy has to be physically strong, brave, fertile, straight, or have a lumberjack beard to be considered manly, but being a man-baby is wholly unattractive. These are also usually the neckbeards and incels who piss and moan about how all women are whores who won't sleep with them.
Re: "It's like a judgement on your masculinity" August 21, 2018 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 2,430 |