New parents kill loaf in the hospital July 22, 2019 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,976 |
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Cambion
According to another article, staff tried for ten hours to revive the kid (is it normal to do that for that long?), but without success.
Re: New parents kill loaf in the hospital July 22, 2019 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,712 |
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bell_flower
I cannot help but wonder if this is a product of our Breederific culture. You cannot tell me that a family member wasn't aware of this pregnancy. Did they tell this young couple they would love it once it got here? And it was their moral duty to raise the kid? Certainly this couple had encounters with medical professionals who could have advised them about safe haven.
ETA: cfdavep, probably the same people who are refusing sterilizations think nothing of telling someone who doesn't want their baybee to suck it up, instead of telling them about safe haven laws.
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freya
I was going to mention adopting the baby out but that could have been difficult to impossible depending on the family of the couple. Some families would shame and berate them for the rest of their lives for doing this and they may have been disowned for doing so. Also, if they live in a small town that is religious the entire town could turn their backs on them.
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bell_flower
I cannot help but wonder if this is a product of our Breederific culture. You cannot tell me that a family member wasn't aware of this pregnancy. Did they tell this young couple they would love it once it got here? And it was their moral duty to raise the kid? Certainly this couple had encounters with medical professionals who could have advised them about safe haven.
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Cambion
Why they killed it in a hospital full of cameras and people with the skills to save lives (as well as the knowledge to determine cause of death) rather than waiting until they got home and chucking it off a bridge is beyond me.
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kman
The pattern is that states have passed safe-haven laws with great fanfare and publicity, but then the laws never get mentioned again.
Hospitals need to give new parents this information. Maybe the schools could spare a moment from the incessant breeder propaganda to tell students too. Health classes should mention safe-haven laws.
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Peace
Remember some years back, a state in the USA (forget the name of the state) had a safe haven law for children? People came from all over the USA to dump their kids of all ages at hospitals and fire stations in that state. One guy dumped his 4 or 5 kids, saying he didn't want to take care of them anymore. Somebody drove all night with their 12 year old tween just to dump them there.
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mumofsixbirds
I'm just afraid that some people will resort to this kind of behavior. It's a way to take the easy way out. "Oh, Junior just stopped breathing...we've suffered enuf!" Kind of thing. I'm worried that some people will think that's easier to deal with than telling their friends and family that they dropped the kid off at a safe haven.
Re: New parents kill loaf in the hospital July 25, 2019 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,976 |
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kittehpeoples
Maybe they thought they could pass the kid's death off as SIDS...that would garner them more sympathy (and possibly a GFM) than giving it up to a Safe Haven. We as a society are not kind to people who choose not to be parents, whether it's by being CF, having an abortion, or giving the child up for adoption. Could be "SIDS" looked like a better out to them.
Re: New parents kill loaf in the hospital July 26, 2019 | Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 2,364 |
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Cambion
Very good point. They would likely be crucified if they aborted, surrendered the kid for adoption or left it at a safe haven, but a baby suddenly dying is seen as a tragic, but more "acceptable" means of not having a child. Which is probably why so many people were so fond of offing their loaves and calling it SIDS before the authorities started catching on. They'd rely on the mistaken belief that no parent would ever hurt or kill their own kids, but people are wising up more and more, and instead of greeting murderous parents with sympathy, they're met with suspicion.
I'm guessing they didn't know that the staff in the hospital would be able to tell the kid was suffocated either.
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Peace
Remember some years back, a state in the USA (forget the name of the state) had a safe haven law for children? People came from all over the USA to dump their kids of all ages at hospitals and fire stations in that state. One guy dumped his 4 or 5 kids, saying he didn't want to take care of them anymore. Somebody drove all night with their 12 year old tween just to dump them there.
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