#1262 - "Breeder's Bible"

Sherz, you pretty much summed up most "women's magazines" and why I hate them. They are all about pleasing sprogs and (in some cases) the hubby.
Then there's "teen magazines" and Cosmo which are about losing weight so you can be "attractive" and pleasing boys as if that's the reason why girls exist.
I wish there was a magazine for women who aren't obbessed with baybees and being a size 4. But that would make women (gasp!) secure with themselves, become thinkers, and not need all the products in the ads!

OMG tell me about it. I had a roommate who was a recovering bulimic and was out to save the world from eating disorders. What were her pasttimes? Reading Cosmo and watching MTV - then she would bitch and moan about how the media was making women hate their bodies and was lowering their self-esteem. I kept wanting to say, "Gee bitch, how about turning off the TV and reading something intelligent and being a good role model that way?" God forbid you tell women that they should, I don't know, THINK FOR THEMSELVES??? But then who would be left to to TMIJITW??

The media is out to purposely make women feel insecure about their bodies - they need some way to sell their products. Damn you idiot breeders, go read something with meaning instead of listening to some faceless author tell you how you should please your husband in bed or how to arrange the contents of your sprog's sandwich. I shy away from that kind of shit at all costs - give me Time or Weekly World News any day.

Amen.

there used to be a few magazine about size acceptence,


http://www.largesse.net/books.html some books about it,

All of Me, A Voluptuous Tale, by Venise Berry (Dutton/Penguin, 2000)

At Large (Third in the Josephine Fuller Mystery Series), by Lynne Murray (Minotaur Books, 2001)

Fat Girl Dances With Rocks, by Susan Stinson (Spinster's Ink, 1994)

Eat This: 365 Reasons to Stop Dieting, by Mary McHugh (Chronicle Books, 2004)

Good in Bed, by Jennifer Wiener (Pocketbooks, 2001)

http://sizenet.com/


some magazines few from here



http://www.radiancemagazine.com/ online but you can order some

http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/

hope these help



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Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii

Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein

Curves is backed by religious groups and subcribes to anti-abortion views. Yet, the idea is to make women thin and attractive for marriage. Then, those babies are born and the women are back to Curves trying to lose the post-pregnancy weight. Women can never win in these situations.

I hate that "you should be thin to be attractive" moto garb. You can be a size 16 and be healthy/happy and very attractive. All the models in those magazines look like sh!t. I'd take the healthy look over the sick herion look anyday.

It's terrible how these magazines promote self-image problems. Ewwww, I didn't know that about Curves, India. I would never go there anyway! I really hate working out in a gym environment. I'd much rather take a nice long walk along the river, than be stuck in a sweaty gym! It's funny, I think (or at least I hope for the sake of all women) that as you get older you are more accepting of yourself. I just turned 42, and I'm perfectly content with how I look. Even though the editors of those mags might say I need to loose 15 or 20lbs., or get botox injections, I have more important and interesting things to do than focus on looking like someone 20yrs. younger than me!

india_darshan Wrote:
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> Curves is backed by religious groups and subcribes
> to anti-abortion views.

Thanks, that's good to know - so they're on my shit list from now on.

I've heard that Dominos pizza is backed by an prowomanhating(fetal fuckers,sorry I'm like a kid with a new toy)CEO. Where can you find out about the politics behind these companies?



"When you're dying, a funny gag would be to act like you see an angel,
then pretend like you're having sex with it."
-Jack Handey
-The Lost Deep Thoughts.
Next to last page(I like this one because most of the Einstiens who are into angels, seem to be antiabortion.)

Other good role models--

Camryn Mannheim, read her book Wake Up! I'm Fat! Of course she had a kid, but all is forgiven, because she is a parent, not breeder.

Marilyn Wann, her book fat!so? helped me with anorexia.

Is it just me, or is Mia Tyler hotter than Liv? Liv is beautiful, but Mia, oh damn. she's gorgeous.

yes he was planning to build his own town somewhere in florida.


The Domino's Pizza founder and anti-choice crusader, Thomas S. Monaghan, wants to build a little Catholic theocracy just outside Naples, Florida, where he controls the commercial real estate. Lots of pizza; no condoms, porn or abortions


http://www-cgi.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/21/sun.02.html


SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Here in the tomato fields of Collier County, Florida. Tom Monaghan hopes to find a home for his conservative catholic university and build a new town for like-minded Catholics.

Is this your dream?

TOM MONAGHAN: Yes. I've been this about this for many, many years.

CANDIOTTI: His dream is a university and a town he's calling Ave Maria. Latin for hail Mary. What kind of Catholic would want to live in this town?

MONAGHAN: I think a strong Catholic where faith means a lot to them. There will be masses available all day long. Confession available all day long.

CANDIOTTI: On the interim campus in Naples, Florida, some students applaud Monaghan's vision.

KRISTEN HARR, STUDENT, AVE MARIA UNIVERSITY: It's very exciting to think about having a town where we know that the morals on the television will be according to Christian values and the stores will sell things according to Christian values.

CANDIOTTI: In Ave Maria, Monaghan would like to ban the sale of contraceptives, condemned by the church and routinely ignored by the Catholics.

MONAGHAN: We would do what we could to prohibit merchants from doing that, because we then own all the commercial real estate, we would be able to do that.

CANDIOTTI: Ave Maria's developers admit it's an unusual approach.

BLAKE GABLE, BARON COLLIER COMPANIES: This is one of those items that we know it's important to Tom. We've broached the idea with retailers and candidly this is something they've never been asked to do before.

CANDIOTTI: 11,000 homes are expected to go up on the 5,000 acres; we are talking about 500 miles of pipes and another couple hundred miles of sidewalks and trails, with the church being the main focus, standing about 30 feet taller than any other building. Around the church, shops and homes. For Monaghan the university will be the big draw.

MONAGHAN: We're trying to create people that are going to change the world. That's exactly what we're trying to do with Ave Maria is to change the world.

CANDIOTTI: In Monaghan's view, most Catholic universities have become too liberal.

MONAGHAN: We won't give honorary degrees. We won't have a particular play -- I won't mention the name of it, shown on many Catholic universities?

CANDIOTTI: That would be the vagina monologues. And a gay film festival?

MONAGHAN: That won't happen here.


PROF. MARIA ROCA, FLORIDA GULF COAST UNIV: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My beliefs are very different than Mr. Monaghan's are.

CANDIOTTI: Some Catholics question those kinds of restrictions.

ROCA: Even though I'm a divot Catholic. I think there are a lot of other possibilities we should be teaching at the university level. Are skills to ask questions, really good questions, and tough questions and not to accept blindly that there is one truth?

CANDIOTTI: Monaghan grew up in an orphanage and was kicked out of a seminary over a pillow fight. A life time later the Domino's Pizza mega millionaire who never finished college is pouring $200 million of his fortune into the university and the town.

MONAGHAN: Didn't do anything to have 20,000 pizza shops and be worth $30 billion. You can't take it with you.

CANDIOTTI: What are we looking at here?

MONAGHAN: Right now we walked into the front door of the church.

CANDIOTTI: Monaghan hopes to turn out Catholic educators who he says will take a less watered down version of the Catholic faith. He prefers a faculty that's mostly Catholic, and in his words, not mediocre. How do you define a mediocre Catholic?

MONAGHAN: A cafeteria Catholic that says they are Catholic who go to church on Easter and Palm Sunday, and probably oftentimes are pro-abortion.

CANDIOTTI: Some are uneasy with Monaghan's approach.

PETER STEINFELS, FORDHAM UNIVERSITY: My concern is that they criticize all the other models of going about this as though they were the only ones that met the test of genuine religious Catholic commitment and orthodoxy, and I think that's a grave error and a disservice to other people in Catholic higher education.

CANDIOTTI: Monaghan sees it more simply.

MONAGHAN: The biggest impact I can have for what I want to do, the results I want to have with what God's given me, and that is to help as many people as possible get to heaven. That's the best way I know how to do it.

CANDIOTTI: And Ave Maria in Monaghan's view could be heaven's stepping-stone. Susan Candiotti, on the future's site of Ave Maria, Florida.


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I just post the stories, for interest.. for everyone

Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii

Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein

11,000 homes on 5,000 acres? Great more farmland going for developement, one of the biggest reasons I hate breeders. Man when I hear shit like that I want to starting reading porn,drink,smoke swear(already do that damn it) and have muliple abortions, and dedicate them to people like them. Hey cum-stain! This terminations for you!!!!!

"Many people don't realize that playing dead can help not only with bears,but also at important business meetings."
-Jack Handey
-The Lost Deep Thoughts
pg 10

My husband and I saw this guy on one of the morning shows. My husband is an ex-catholic. Living in a place like this would be his idea of hell, and mine too! No place can ever be the utopia he imagines, when it will be seething with loud, noisey, obnoxious kids, doing whatever the hell they want.

hell is other people ..

i say let him build it.. let him waste 200 million, and see how much crime, there is, or does he beleive in and eye for an eye.. thats in the bible too.. does he beleive in this

1 corinthians 14

14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak."
Women are commanded by Paul to be silent in church and to be obedient to men. He further says that "if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in church."

14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

corinthians 11

11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.


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I just post the stories, for interest.. for everyone

Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii

Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein

Scary stuff the Bible. I know two real Christians, my therapist Paula and my old co-worker,Tom. They really walk the walk. Tom did not like the prolifers although he didn't like abortion either. They are both wonderful,caring people and actually I changed my mind about Christians knowing them(REAL Christians not the ultra scary ones we're all familiar with.)Mercurior where are you and fiance going to get married?

registry office, its easier, and quieter, not into a big wedding, just me and her, and 2 witnesses. maybe something later but quiet really.. we both know we are married where it really counts in our hearts


i am seriously lapsed. i vowed to never enter a church since the messed us about when my dad died. and i havent set foot in it or any for about 11 years.

i dislike all religions, but any one can worship anything as far as i am concerned, its the ones that try to force their faith onto you i really object too

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I just post the stories, for interest.. for everyone

Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii

Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein

Although I'm pretty lapsed on the issue, it's always a good thing to know the religious/political backings of corporations in this country today. Every American dollar seems to somehow get funneled into some religious fundamentalist group that is slowly chipping away at our rights. Look at that cocksucking famblee the Waltons - owners of Wal-Fart, Sam's Club, Lowe's and other interests. People like them are ruining America.

I LOATHE WITH A PASSION Corporate America which is WHY I will NOT patronize any chain store. I do admit, I am guilty of it sometimes because it is not always avoidable, but for the majority, I prefer the mom and pop stores, shops, vets, pharmacies, and restaurants.

Just yesterday a nice little family-owned pharmacy in my area announced it is closing it's doors. I went in, did some shopping and asked why. She said "See that big CVS being built over there? We'll never be able to compete with that so we're closing shop before we lose any money." I was very sad to hear this. This is a pharmacy that's been open since 1940.

india_darshan Wrote:
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> Curves is backed by religious groups and subcribes
> to anti-abortion views.

Seriously? Oh man, I'm so glad my coworkers never succeeded in talking me into joining there! Thanks for that info!

I heard on some SF Bay Area news channel that General Motors gives 97 percent (or close to it) of its "charitable contributions" to the republican party. Starbucks, on the other hand, gives at least that percentage to the democratic party.

mercurior Wrote:
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> hell is other people ..
>
> i say let him build it.. let him waste 200
> million, and see how much crime, there is, or
> does he beleive in and eye for an eye.. thats in
> the bible too.. does he beleive in this
>
> 1 corinthians 14
>
> 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches:
> for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but
> they are commanded to be under obedience as also
> saith the law.
> "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for
> it is not permitted unto them to speak."
> Women are commanded by Paul to be silent in church
> and to be obedient to men. He further says that
> "if they will learn any thing, let them ask their
> husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to
> speak in church."
>
> 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them
> ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for
> women to speak in the church.
>
> corinthians 11
>
> 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth
> with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for
> that is even all one as if she were shaven.
>
> 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also
> be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be
> shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
>
> 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head,
> forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but
> the woman is the glory of the man.


This is why I have given up on the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, the Bhagavad Gita, and other spiritual books that are supposedly inspired by a God. All of these spiritual "gospels" oppress women.

Wasn't MS Magazine suppose to cater to smart, self-sufficient women and not focus on the beauty aspect? I know MORE magazine is devoted to women over 40 but I am not certain what they are promoting. I used to love those Glamour/vogue kind of magazines when I was in my early 20's but I stopped workshipping those as I got older.

The only magazines I read now are trade ones. I also like "Home" magazine and Better Homes and Gardens (I just skip the sprig related stuff). I think some of the worst breeder magazines are "Ladies Home Journal", "RedBook" and "Good House Keeping." And of course any magazine named "Parent..."

I knew that about Curves and heard about Dominoes. It's nice to know the breeder supporter/women hater places so that we don't patronize them.

My two favorite "chick" mags...
Bust http://www.bust.com/index.shtml
(more pictures, shorter articles, lots of stuff on doing stuff yourself)
and
Bitch http://www.bitchmagazine.com/
(fewer pictures, longer articles, more politically feminist)

Some other awesome mags that are generally available at Borders or Barnes and Nobel...

Ready Made http://www.readymademag.com/
(crafty stuff for crafty people, reusing/remaking/repurposing already existing stuff - I made an awesome coat tree out of our x-mas tree)
Giant Robot - http://www.giantrobot.com/
(like anime, rice, toys, candy, kungfu movies? this is for you)
Juxtapoz http://www.juxtapoz.com/mambo/
("low brow" art, tattos, cartooning)
Fortean Times http://www.forteantimes.com/
(a journal of unexplained phenomon)
Mojo http://www.mojo4music.com/
(the world's best music magazine)

Dominoes pizza states really doughy and crappy, much like that one guy must be...

I'd say we build a town that doesn't have a church affiliate or anything...and have it be "freedom from religion"...