Overpopulation

This is something I've been thinking abou8t recently...more specifically, how the issue will be dealt with when it gets extremely out of hand. What do you think would be done in America when the population gets far too great? Could farmers lose their many acres to people who need houses built on that land? Will people no longer be allowed to own their own homes because space is so precious that we can't afford to let only a couple people live in one home? Do you think it could reach a point where crazy shit like underwater homes become common? Would food rations be given out because there isn't enough food for everyone? Could our country turn to genocide to deal with overpopulation? Would the government begin offering cash incentives, large tax breaks, or other financial perks to those with no children in order to promote population control?

What do you think would be done when the American or world population reaches incredible crisis levels? As in, more so than they are right now? What do you foresee happening when there's just too damn many of us here?

When I was born in 1967, the population of the U.S. was 200 million. Now it's north of 300 million.

That 50% increase in my little lifetime scares me. Plus the ongoing increase is exponential, not arithmetic.

The average American breeder feels superior to other Americans who 1)Don't let God plan their famblees 2)Don't share their religious beliefs 3)Who are of a different race and 4) Who have babies when they are on welfare.



While I realize breeders come in all colors and religions, but in The United States the majority breeder right now is the lower middle class and above white and protestant. They even feel superior to the Catholic breeders. They are self replicating at such a high rate of speed to create "God's Army" and fill their damned quiver bags up, that I would guess in 50 years they will likely have an "arrow" in every major political office across the globe and Duggars will be coming out our asses in every position of power. In 2059, I predict that "Duggar" will be the new "Smith". Because of their very deep prejudices against people who are different from themselves, and because their feelings of superiority over the REST of the world is even greater than over their fellow Americans, I believe that if ANY action is taken to control the world population, it will be like a triage unit of sorts as to WHO gets the food. I think that the religious fundies will literally starve people to death if they are not white and/or do not share their religious beliefs.

They won't probably go for abortions or sterilizations even then though, but will likely just sit back and get their bellies full as they look on to hundreds of thousands of starving people on TV, in the news/media, and probably right out their own front windows. This would be something that they woold do because it's an act of cowardice to sit back, toothpick in mouth, and let "God's Will", be done. They will likely have some sort of separatist physical barrier by then to segregate The United States from the rest of the world too. Just by their sheer numbers and their infiltration into positions of power, they will have completely taken over this country and they will have NO PROBLEM just letting people starve to death because in their minds, "those people" were going to hell anyway and it will further strengthen God's army. I realize that this sounds far fetched, but then so did flying to the moon just 40 or so short years ago. I honestly think that the fundamentalist nutcases will at the very least, take over America.

So, the fundies will starve everyone out until there is enough food to nourish their "army" against satan and evil people, like the CF. I hope like hell that I am dead by then, I really do.

Ah yes... there's actually a word for this particular type of politically-motivated breeding: fecundism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecundism

Yet another "ism" to deal with....

Kim, you do realize that my UFO's are bigger and more powerful that your UFO's, and besides that, mine are shaped like large, erect penises. They also vibrate and glow in the dark.

Did you EVER stop to consider that?

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I'm a big fan of documenteries and know some of the answers that are already in the works:

Experiments are being done to bring large greehouses inside the cities via underground artificial sunlight, or put them on top of buildings.

The planning phase is nearly complete on a floating city that can house and provide jobs to several thousand people.

Genetic cloning on editable crops and livestock is gaining grounds.

New super-skyscrapers are being designed that can house 10x more people than an average skycraper.

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I'm a big fan of documenteries and know some of the answers that are already in the works:

Experiments are being done to bring large greehouses inside the cities via underground artificial sunlight, or put them on top of buildings.

The planning phase is nearly complete on a floating city that can house and provide jobs to several thousand people.

Genetic cloning on editable crops and livestock is gaining grounds.

New super-skyscrapers are being designed that can house 10x more people than an average skycraper.

I have a tinfoil hat that lets me read the UFO staff's thoughts as they sodomize me with a turkey baster.

But, I digress.

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"I have learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is easy and fun as hell"

:eatu

I think we'll all be dead by the time something this extreme happens. My sorrow is for the animals left to struggle :-(

Kidless Kim, the prospect of Duggars overrunning the government is probably the scariest thing I've ever heard!:hs

My new avatar is the answer to the problem. Anyone remember Dr. Sinister from that Flintstones episode? "Throw them into zee pit!" There's your solution.

Seriously, I think birth control in the water supply might be a good idea. It astounds me how people can keep having more and more kids without thinking about where to put them all.

Barring a plague or nuclear war, I expect that authorities will combat the population explosion in two steps:

First, those with genetic and certain other problems will not be allowed to breed. There is a growing suspicion that autism has a genetic component, so look out when that starts to happen. We are already seeing fetusus with Down's syndrome routinely aborted; this will spread.

Children born with such defects when prenatal testing could have detected the problem will be denied health coverage under government programs such as Medicaid. Then this concept will spread to private insurers. Again, we already have precedent, as in the early 1990s a health maintenance organization (HMO) told a woman whose fetus carried the gene for cystic fibrosis that the HMO would pay for her to abort, but not for any health care for the baby should she choose to have it. Her threat to sue made the HMO back down.

Next will be coercive policies such as those in China and (in the 1970s) India.

As the population grows, it seems likely that coercive socialism and government monitoring will entrench themselves in all facets of life. We will get a taste of what's to come with some of the upcoming Obama administration's proposals, and that isn't to knock the man or his policies. Just keep your eyes open and see where the policies will logically lead.

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Barring a plague or nuclear war, I expect that authorities will combat the population explosion in two steps:

First, those with genetic and certain other problems will not be allowed to breed. There is a growing suspicion that autism has a genetic component, so look out when that starts to happen. We are already seeing fetusus with Down's syndrome routinely aborted; this will spread.

GOOD. Excellent. I am all for forced sterilizations. Sterilizing people IS NOT akin to killing them or anything else, they just don't have the right to make brats. People love to scream "hitler" when we start discussing forced sterlizations or eugenics, but let's keep something in mind here:

1. Fertility clinics ALREADY practice eugenics. They ARE eugenics centers. Ever see those adds for egg or sperm donors wanted? Do you know the kind of medical and genetic and family history they collect before they will pay for eggs and sperm?? PURE EUGENICS. And no one says a goddamned fucking word about it. Why is there only screaming and crying about "hitler" when we talk about eugenics for reducing the population load, but when eugenics is used by the breeders for their purposes, then it's all god ordained and socially acceptable? either eugenics is ok or it is not, so make up your fucking mind breeders.

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As the population grows, it seems likely that coercive socialism and government monitoring will entrench themselves in all facets of life. We will get a taste of what's to come with some of the upcoming Obama administration's proposals, and that isn't to knock the man or his policies. Just keep your eyes open and see where the policies will logically lead.

Obomber is pure breeder. He will support the eugenics that breeders practice, but will not support any sensible eugenics, such as sterilizing people.

One really strange thing to me is that many fundie breeders call sterilization "Pro-Death", yet they condone IVF treatment. Do they not realize or want to admit that in ALL cases of IVF that they implant more than one zygote and that in every single case fertilized eggs DIE in order to get that one baybee? For women who do it for years on end, as many as 50 or more "baybees' are killed, or left in embryonic freezers (affectionatly called "Frosties") in an indeterminate time of suspension, not living and not dead, just so they can get a "miracle" from God? If THIS isn't "pro-death,". then I do not know what could be. IVF often uses what they call, "embryonic reduction", or something like that, which is that they basically ABORT the fetus' (as it's usually multiples) that are not developing properly in order to give the strongest and healthiest the best chance at being carried to term.


"Fetal reduction" may sound better than abortion, but it is the exact same thing. They are using birth control via abortion BY CHOICE, but because the end justifies the means in that they get the "prize" in the form of a baybee, it's 'ok" to kill the other baybees until they get the healthy one. Some of these SAME whores who have allowed DOZENS of "Frosties" to meet their maker, will condemn a woman who has had a traditional abortion. WHY can't they see that they are not only aborting as well, but are guilty of doing it MULTIPLE times.????? I HATE fundie moocows who go in for IVF treatments on Friday afternoon, but are picketing abortion clinics on Saturday morning. I think that everyone should be on a form of mandatory birth control until we can get our population under control, but that won't ever happen.

Yes! Dr. Sinister! Haha, I meant to compliment that avitar...

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Sterilizing people IS NOT akin to killing them or anything else, they just don't have the right to make brats.

Take away their RIGHT to reproduce?? Why, they can't DO that! WHAAAAAHHHH!!!!! The stooopids of the world will never let that happen.

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One really strange thing to me is that many fundie breeders call sterilization "Pro-Death", yet they condone IVF treatment. Do they not realize or want to admit that in ALL cases of IVF that they implant more than one zygote and that in every single case fertilized eggs DIE in order to get that one baybee? For women who do it for years on end, as many as 50 or more "baybees' are killed, or left in embryonic freezers (affectionatly called "Frosties") in an indeterminate time of suspension, not living and not dead, just so they can get a "miracle" from God? If THIS isn't "pro-death,". then I do not know what could be. IVF often uses what they call, "embryonic reduction", or something like that, which is that they basically ABORT the fetus' (as it's usually multiples) that are not developing properly in order to give the strongest and healthiest the best chance at being carried to term.


"Fetal reduction" may sound better than abortion, but it is the exact same thing. They are using birth control via abortion BY CHOICE, but because the end justifies the means in that they get the "prize" in the form of a baybee, it's 'ok" to kill the other baybees until they get the healthy one. Some of these SAME whores who have allowed DOZENS of "Frosties" to meet their maker, will condemn a woman who has had a traditional abortion. WHY can't they see that they are not only aborting as well, but are guilty of doing it MULTIPLE times.????? I HATE fundie moocows who go in for IVF treatments on Friday afternoon, but are picketing abortion clinics on Saturday morning. I think that everyone should be on a form of mandatory birth control until we can get our population under control, but that won't ever happen.

Hitler would bask in the glory of what goes on at modern fertility clinics for sure! Aside from all the "genetic purity" implanting frosties for the best and "healthiest" dna, selecting only the most genetically and lifestyle "fit" egg and sperm donors, these places also tend to be the most racially "pure" as well, with white blonde babies as the most requested. It's enough to make a nazi rejoice. Breeders like it too. :flamingm

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Hitler would bask in the glory of what goes on at modern fertility clinics for sure! Aside from all the "genetic purity" implanting frosties for the best and "healthiest" dna, selecting only the most genetically and lifestyle "fit" egg and sperm donors, these places also tend to be the most racially "pure" as well, with white blonde babies as the most requested. It's enough to make a nazi rejoice. Breeders like it too. :flamingm

Stop with the Hitler crap.

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Hitler would bask in the glory of what goes on at modern fertility clinics for sure! Aside from all the "genetic purity" implanting frosties for the best and "healthiest" dna, selecting only the most genetically and lifestyle "fit" egg and sperm donors, these places also tend to be the most racially "pure" as well, with white blonde babies as the most requested. It's enough to make a nazi rejoice. Breeders like it too. :flamingm

Stop with the Hitler crap.

Why? She's exactly right.

You will never, EVER get anyone to admit it, but unless they're clueless they know darn well it's practicing eugenics on a small scale. Either one of two things usually happens: the parents want their kid to look Just Like Them, or to look Like A Kid Should Look...given a choice, many white parents would have their child be a blond-haired blue-eyed Aryan dream. And with modern technology they can have one, provided only they cough up enough dough. The Big H would have given his right arm for this kind of influence over future generations.

Quite simply the Moos and Duhs of the world are now able to play God by manipulating their lineage in an unnatural way which eventually effects the entire human race. If that fact doesn't scare the daylights out of you, it should.

And kidlesskim - you are so right on the IVF hypocrisy. I tried explaining that to a few people and promptly got torn a new one...

Rose, I don't appreciate when people bring in hitler to the conversation either, honestly I think it's applicable here which is why I brought it up. Please tell me what is the difference between a modern day fertility clinic in america and a eugenics clinic in nazi germany? The only difference I can suss out is that in the nazi eugenics program ALL of the loaves born were to be blonde and white, and in the modern fertility clinic about 90% are requested to be white and blonde. That's just the racial part. Everything else though, aside from the racial stuff, the selection of sperm and eggs from people with high intelligence, perfect family health, perfect mental health matches up one to one with a hitler eugenics program!

You understand what eugenics is right?

If fertility clinics did not want to be eugenics centers what they would have to do is take sperm and egg from anyone who wanted to sell it to them.