A*'s subliminal little message to us.............
Posted by KidFreeLuvnLife
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Re: A*'s subliminal little message to us............. January 23, 2009 |
It's true. I am completely insensitive to attention whores like herself who are also so selfish that they keep having baybees when they already know that they will likely suffer and die. They want attention focusued on THEIR suffering, but what about the child or their numerous "dead baybees" that they have left in their wake while upon their quest for a live one? WHY does a child have to be deprived of formula up until the doc says it's either feed him something other than your precious titty juice or he will continue to starve until he dies? JUST because they want to be worshipped at the almighty altar known as their udders, they will let him go hungry? Why do they choose the naptime of a less than one month old infant to play carpenter's helper? Why shake him, nudge him, and startle him, just to satisfy their irrational fears that he is still alive, and then TELL people about it? The average person on the street SHOULD be able to just look at a baybee and see that it's breathing, is moving, or has any color and/or life to it's skin and is alive without shaking it and jarring it awake every five minutes. So yeah, if that's the definition of insensitive, I guess she has me pegged. 
I make it no secret that I STRONGLY dislike women who will do anything to have a baybee, regardless of the potential quality of life (or life at all) of the child. It's brazenly apparent that SOME women have baybees soley for attention and for selfish motives, such as is evidenced by a lot of this nonsense that we see on these moomie blogs.
I make it no secret that I STRONGLY dislike women who will do anything to have a baybee, regardless of the potential quality of life (or life at all) of the child. It's brazenly apparent that SOME women have baybees soley for attention and for selfish motives, such as is evidenced by a lot of this nonsense that we see on these moomie blogs.
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Re: A*'s subliminal little message to us............. January 23, 2009 |
I had never heard of attachment parenting until last year when a pop up ad came on the screen about it on a childfree site. (auto key words, I suppose) I took my virgin voyage into another time, space, and dimension of sight and sound known as "Attachment Parenting Moomie Boards". While there are varying degrees of it, they all share certain common characteristics and their Guru is a man named Dr. Jim Sears, who literally wrote the book on AP. As to be expected, they bicker, judge, and have "classes" among themselves, so there is no set criteria of AP that they ALL agree upon. I have a pretty good idea what the more militant APer's agree on though, and it's as follows:
1)They do not believe that a child should be separated from it's mother AT ALL in the first two years of it's life and even then, only for a few hours at the time and ONLY with it's father or other close relative who it knows and feels comfortable around.
2)They believe that ALL baybees should be breastfed and if after all medical options have been exhausted for a woman who is unable, that she should try to get the kyd some donated breastmilk. It's a TERRIBLE guilt trip for those who can not udder feed.
3)They believe in "CLW". aka "child led weaning", in that the child will let them know when IT'S ready to stop breastfeeding. However, whenever a kyd starts pulling away at 6-12 months or later, they will do just about EVERYTHING in their power to get that kyd BACK on the tit.
4)They believe that "co-sleeping" is a natural way to help the child bond and feel secure, so they let ALL of their kyds sleep in the bed with them until they no longer fit. THEN they scatter mattresses about the master bedroom. At any given time they have an infant and a couple of toddlers in their bed, and school age kyds and even TEENS on the mattresses, cots, pallets, and mats, in their bedroom. They also go to great lengths to hide this from others and VERY FEW fathers like it and it seems to cause marital problems for many of them.
5)They are COMPLETELY against "CIO", aka "cry it out". Children should NEVER be placed in a room or anywhere else and allowed to "CIO", even and especially baybees. When a child cries he needs to be comforted and NEVER left alone to cry, for any reason.
6) NO SPANKING, or yelling at a child. This is where "gentle discipline" is practiced. They believe in removing the child from the situation, such as it just ran out in front of a car, cut off a cat's ear, or is lighting a match to the Christmas presents. Then, they believe in reasoning with the child and gently showing him the error of his ways. They don't practice "time outs" NOR do they EVER send a kyd to it's room. They believe in Natural consequences" of bad behavior such as if you burn down the Christmas tree, another one will not be bought or maybe he won't get to help decorate the next one. You cut the kitty's ear off, and you can no longer play with kitty. You make a big mess, you help clean it. It won't clean it up? Then next time he can not play with the toy, which of course will make him wail, but then they have to comfort him, It's a vicious cycle.
7)They "WEAR" (that's what they call it:"baby wearing") the kyds in body slings and greatly encourage fathers to do this so the child feels safe and "bonds" with the parent. They don't like playpens because they confine the child, but I have seen them use harnesses like with a dog leash, so I don't really know their stance on restraints.
8)They are STRONGLY against circumcision and vaccinations, because they think that circumcision is cruel and unnatural and that vaccines cause autism, among other things.
9) They believe in child led potty training and that it's ok for the kid to just squat and piss outside, because it's natural and shouldn't be discouraged. Some of them don't believe in diapers at all, but instead believe that the infant/kyd will give them "signals" when they need to potty and they just hold their naked asses over one of their many potties which they scatter about the house. They do this because they think it's "natural" and it helps with diaper rash. I have yet to see one successful case where a baybee can "signal: it's mother and not just soak urine through whatever it is that he is sitting or laying on, judging by their numerous anecdotal evidence..They also generally have 5-6 y.o's (and older) who still shit on themselves. This is why they use diapers in public, because this child led shitting and whatnot does NOT work.
That's about all that comes to mind, although there is a LOT more to it. After I realized what it was, I knew then that some of the freaky nutcase parents I had been acquainted with or had come into contact with in the past were into this nonsense. One thing that's pretty telling (as they keep MOST of it secret) is all of this "bargaining" and over explaining they do at inappropiate times and with children who are WAY too young, I have observed what I know know to be AP, who will hold up a fucking line at a concession stand or walk up window and say to a 2 y/o, "Chrystiana, would you prefer to have the grilled cheesey triangles like Uncle BobBob, the baybee hot dogs like at Gramma's, or the mac n cheese like mommy makes?". Then, once THAT big life altering decision is dragged out of the kyd and they have gotten their "cookies" from the captive audience who awaits THEIR turn, they start up with the drink order. "Jon Miqieal, would you like 2% milk in a little carton with a blue straw or some pink lemonade to go in your sippy cup?". MY GOD, just order the kyd something and move the fuck out of the way. They also ALWAYS use a sing sing voice when they do it to and are constantly looking among the crowd for nods of approval.
1)They do not believe that a child should be separated from it's mother AT ALL in the first two years of it's life and even then, only for a few hours at the time and ONLY with it's father or other close relative who it knows and feels comfortable around.
2)They believe that ALL baybees should be breastfed and if after all medical options have been exhausted for a woman who is unable, that she should try to get the kyd some donated breastmilk. It's a TERRIBLE guilt trip for those who can not udder feed.
3)They believe in "CLW". aka "child led weaning", in that the child will let them know when IT'S ready to stop breastfeeding. However, whenever a kyd starts pulling away at 6-12 months or later, they will do just about EVERYTHING in their power to get that kyd BACK on the tit.
4)They believe that "co-sleeping" is a natural way to help the child bond and feel secure, so they let ALL of their kyds sleep in the bed with them until they no longer fit. THEN they scatter mattresses about the master bedroom. At any given time they have an infant and a couple of toddlers in their bed, and school age kyds and even TEENS on the mattresses, cots, pallets, and mats, in their bedroom. They also go to great lengths to hide this from others and VERY FEW fathers like it and it seems to cause marital problems for many of them.
5)They are COMPLETELY against "CIO", aka "cry it out". Children should NEVER be placed in a room or anywhere else and allowed to "CIO", even and especially baybees. When a child cries he needs to be comforted and NEVER left alone to cry, for any reason.
6) NO SPANKING, or yelling at a child. This is where "gentle discipline" is practiced. They believe in removing the child from the situation, such as it just ran out in front of a car, cut off a cat's ear, or is lighting a match to the Christmas presents. Then, they believe in reasoning with the child and gently showing him the error of his ways. They don't practice "time outs" NOR do they EVER send a kyd to it's room. They believe in Natural consequences" of bad behavior such as if you burn down the Christmas tree, another one will not be bought or maybe he won't get to help decorate the next one. You cut the kitty's ear off, and you can no longer play with kitty. You make a big mess, you help clean it. It won't clean it up? Then next time he can not play with the toy, which of course will make him wail, but then they have to comfort him, It's a vicious cycle.
7)They "WEAR" (that's what they call it:"baby wearing") the kyds in body slings and greatly encourage fathers to do this so the child feels safe and "bonds" with the parent. They don't like playpens because they confine the child, but I have seen them use harnesses like with a dog leash, so I don't really know their stance on restraints.
8)They are STRONGLY against circumcision and vaccinations, because they think that circumcision is cruel and unnatural and that vaccines cause autism, among other things.
9) They believe in child led potty training and that it's ok for the kid to just squat and piss outside, because it's natural and shouldn't be discouraged. Some of them don't believe in diapers at all, but instead believe that the infant/kyd will give them "signals" when they need to potty and they just hold their naked asses over one of their many potties which they scatter about the house. They do this because they think it's "natural" and it helps with diaper rash. I have yet to see one successful case where a baybee can "signal: it's mother and not just soak urine through whatever it is that he is sitting or laying on, judging by their numerous anecdotal evidence..They also generally have 5-6 y.o's (and older) who still shit on themselves. This is why they use diapers in public, because this child led shitting and whatnot does NOT work.
That's about all that comes to mind, although there is a LOT more to it. After I realized what it was, I knew then that some of the freaky nutcase parents I had been acquainted with or had come into contact with in the past were into this nonsense. One thing that's pretty telling (as they keep MOST of it secret) is all of this "bargaining" and over explaining they do at inappropiate times and with children who are WAY too young, I have observed what I know know to be AP, who will hold up a fucking line at a concession stand or walk up window and say to a 2 y/o, "Chrystiana, would you prefer to have the grilled cheesey triangles like Uncle BobBob, the baybee hot dogs like at Gramma's, or the mac n cheese like mommy makes?". Then, once THAT big life altering decision is dragged out of the kyd and they have gotten their "cookies" from the captive audience who awaits THEIR turn, they start up with the drink order. "Jon Miqieal, would you like 2% milk in a little carton with a blue straw or some pink lemonade to go in your sippy cup?". MY GOD, just order the kyd something and move the fuck out of the way. They also ALWAYS use a sing sing voice when they do it to and are constantly looking among the crowd for nods of approval.
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Re: A*'s subliminal little message to us............. January 23, 2009 |
i seem to be, being trolled on my live journal 
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http://mercurior.livejournal.com/4162.html i wonder where they found me..
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..http://mercurior.livejournal.com/4162.html i wonder where they found me..
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I just post the stories, for interest.. for everyone
Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii
Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.â€
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein
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Re: A*'s subliminal little message to us............. January 24, 2009 |
well i am luckier than most, they would have to fly several thousand miles, with the brats to find me, then find my house, then talk to a 6 foot tall bearded fanged 23 stone person,
shall we say, i am scary. in fact i would welcome them to my back door,
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I just post the stories, for interest.. for everyone
Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii
Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.â€
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein
with the brats to find me, then find my house, then talk to a 6 foot tall bearded fanged 23 stone person,shall we say, i am scary. in fact i would welcome them to my back door,
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I just post the stories, for interest.. for everyone
Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii
Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.â€
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein
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Re: A*'s subliminal little message to us............. January 24, 2009 |
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mercurior
shall we say, i am scary. in fact i would welcome them to my back door,
Yes I see your avatar -- wow, is that a real photo of you in the morning before you have a shave??
KK -- they might be followers of Dr Sears but our generation were brought up under Dr Spock who could kick the arse off Dr Sears. Dr Spock's theories were that babies were put onto a schedule that suited the mother, not vice versa. Bottle feeding was good -- the child could even be passed to other rellies who might want to feed it you see. When they got to weigh X amount, they went onto solids like it or not. They weren't left to 'play' at their high chair and 'explore' how to eat. They ate the food given using hand or spoon and the moment they started to fool around that was the 'done eating' signal, the hands were wiped off and they were put down on the floor whether they were full yet or not. They slept in their own beds (in their own rooms preferably), and their whiny 'pay attention to me I'm bored' cries went unanswered until the clock said naptime was officially over. Babies did not rule over parents. So long as the schedules and goings-on were relatively similar every day, the children turned out to be secure, smart and normal.
Oh yeah, we had some parents doing things like the numbers 1 to 9 that you've listed above. But back in that day, we didn't call it Attachment Parenting. We called it Those Poor Hillbilly Families.
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Re: A*'s subliminal little message to us............. January 24, 2009 |
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mercurior
shall we say, i am scary. in fact i would welcome them to my back door,
Yes I see your avatar -- wow, is that a real photo of you in the morning before you have a shave??
KK -- they might be followers of Dr Sears but our generation were brought up under Dr Spock who could kick the arse off Dr Sears. Dr Spock's theories were that babies were put onto a schedule that suited the mother, not vice versa. Bottle feeding was good -- the child could even be passed to other rellies who might want to feed it you see. When they got to weigh X amount, they went onto solids like it or not. They weren't left to 'play' at their high chair and 'explore' how to eat. They ate the food given using hand or spoon and the moment they started to fool around that was the 'done eating' signal, the hands were wiped off and they were put down on the floor whether they were full yet or not. They slept in their own beds (in their own rooms preferably), and their whiny 'pay attention to me I'm bored' cries went unanswered until the clock said naptime was officially over. Babies did not rule over parents. So long as the schedules and goings-on were relatively similar every day, the children turned out to be secure, smart and normal.
Oh yeah, we had some parents doing things like the numbers 1 to 9 that you've listed above. But back in that day, we didn't call it Attachment Parenting. We called it Those Poor Hillbilly Families.
LOL!
After you said that I was trying to remember if I had known any famblees like that when I was growing up or if I could remember any of the "signs" of it at least. Since I lived in a Military town, I was exposed to people from all over the world,and the only ones that I remember doing that type of thing at all were some Air Force moomies.Some of them had the slings, they breastfed ABUNDANTLY more than the women who were native to the area AND in public (in a 70's Southern town at that), and they did that overexplaining and bargaining nonsense with 2 y/o's too, which was considered RIDICULOUS, that much I remember. Everyone just figured that this was the way that Yankees raised their kyds since they were all from Northern states, but now I see that it's just that "AP" must have had origins in more "progressive" areas. That makes it even funnier because it's SUPPOSED to be so basic, and just feel like the "natural way to parent". As for the poor hillbilly famblees who breastfeed until school age and have 8-10 kyds to a bed, shit in their yards, etc......these "AP" people are doing the exact same thing only they are doing it in Mcmansions instead of rural cabins.:gross
However, from what I can see it's anything BUT "natural", but rather it's faddish, trendy, and a "keep up with the Jones" type of parenting and it's NOT worth a shit, judging by the results. How can anything be considered "natural" if it takes so damned much planning, discussion, expense and is so much work? It should be the easiest thing in the world to do, IF it was "natural". I think that hippie children who grew up in communes fared better than this because at least their parents really believed in that crap that they were spewing in between wacky weed tokes and LSD trips. They ALSO had the common sense to hide "AP" type nonsense from the general public rather than expose their idiotic parenting styles and leave themselves open to public ridicule. These "AP" people are a cult, ALL of the signs are there.
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