American politics 2016 cluster thread

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Peace
Has anybody seen the articles where it states that Trump doesn't want to live full time in the White House?? He wants to spend weekends in his Manhattan penthouse. I don't really think this guy wants the job of POTUS.


I think that he will be the GOP rubber stamp. Pence will do the hard work, and Sir Orange Hair will just rubber stamp what the Christian Taliban wants, and call it his own.

When it comes to SCOTUS, expect a rabid right wing nutter to be nominated. With the House and Senate in GOP control, he'll get in. There are groups out there just waiting for a right-wing judge on the SCOTUS, so they can have a test case to repeal Roe v. Wade. I think it will be repealed. When that happens then maybe young millennial women will realize just how fragile women's rights are. I'm fixed, this doesn't affect me, thank goodness.

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reeniebessagain
umm, he's not radical or racist!!?? Ouch!! Where the hell have you been? All Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists? Does that ring a bell, even? We will allow NO MUSLIMS in this country? Another bell? He feels free to grab any woman's pussy at any time? Hand bell chorus?

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StudioFiftyFour

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reeniebessagain
umm, he's not radical or racist!!?? Ouch!! Where the hell have you been? All Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists? Does that ring a bell, even? We will allow NO MUSLIMS in this country? Another bell? He feels free to grab any woman's pussy at any time? Hand bell chorus?

I don't know what your personal beliefs are, and I won't attempt to ascribe any to you, specifically. But I do believe that if a person is childfree and believes that overpopulation is a problem, they cannot simultaneously take the position that importing more people into the country would be a net good. That would be a contradiction.


1. He never said all Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists. He said that many people who are crossing the border are in fact, criminals, including drug dealers and rapists. This is a statement of truth. By in large we are not getting a bunch of Ph.D's and brain surgeons from Mexico. We're getting a disproportionate number of criminals.

2. Trump is opposed to letting Syrian refugees in this country. The FBI director has said that there is no way to properly screen the refugees. Most of them can't speak English, and can't even read or write in their own language. Why on earth would we let any of them in? Why on earth isn't Saudi Arabia taking them in, particularly when they've got 100,000 tents ready to go?!? I understand that the circumstance is tragic, for sure, but I can't conceive any circumstance in which these people will be a net-positive for our country. What do they bring to the table, exactly? And if you (or others) are so concerned about them, why don't you do something for them?

For items #1 and #2, it is not the job of the United States taxpayer to take care of the rest of the world. We are under no moral or political obligation to accept any immigrants. We currently have no reason to accept more immigrants from Mexico, the middle east, or anywhere else. We have at several points in our history, turned off the faucet of immigration.

Overpopulation will impact all of us as childfree people. Whether it's through an unnecessarily high birth rate or importing people, overpopulation will ultimately be an extreme drain on our collective energies, capital, and infrastructure. And as we move toward further automation of low-skill jobs, we simply aren't going to be needing more people. In fact, it's goddamn frightening to look into the future now, knowing how many people will be unemployed once self-driving vehicles get going, for example. There really is no logical case that can be made for importing more people who are destined to become unskilled and superfluous.

And say what you want about The Donald and women, but his claim was that these women "let him" do whatever he wanted because he was a star. And guess what? I think it's relatively safe to say that's generally true. Let's be real here... when it comes to the very wealthy, politicians, rock stars, rappers, celebrities, pro athletes... there is no shortage of women for men who fall under any of the above categories.

Now trust me... I think Donald Trump is a flawed man and candidate. No doubt, he's a natalist to some degree. He wants all of us to subsidize child care for parents. He wants increased tax write-off power when it comes to dependent children. That sucks, big time. The alternative was Hillary Clinton, a woman who bragged about "fighting for women and children" her entire life. (Translation: Childfree folks will be subsidizing parents even more, under her watch.)

If yours truly was running, my campaign message would be simple: We've got enough people right now. We don't need to import any more. We don't need to breed any more. Therefore, our borders are shut down. Birth control will be provided by the government to anyone who wants it. If you don't want it, be forewarned.... From this point forward, there will be no earned income tax credits, no childcare deductions, no welfare for sluicing out additional children. If you breed them, you will feed them. And you will pay for 100% of their daycare, and a greater share of their k-12 schooling than in the past.

I am in no way claiming to be a Christian conservative, but I will say that if given an either/or choice, a society of Christians following western, secular law, is far and away better than any Islamic hellhole. And that goes for all people, including anyone who is childfree. And I write this with a truly clean conscience as I have nothing against Muslims. But there's nothing inherently "racist" about standing up and saying "NO!" to importing more people from parts of the world where women are stoned to death if they dress improperly, where gays are tossed off of rooftops simply for being gay, where freedom of speech and expression is suppressed, and where secular law and human rights are overshadowed by militant extremism.

Hence, the American rise of voters who basically declared that they're not apologizing for refusing the let their country slip away, FWIW.

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mumofsixbirds
Well, now I guess we'll all find out what happens when you give a pussy grabber with bad hair the nuclear codes...

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cfinboston
Agree 100% with what Studio54 said.

As far as Trump not wanting to live in the WH, when Michael Bloomberg was Mayor of NY he Didnt want to live in Gracie Mansion because his own place was much nicer.

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mr. neptune
I am working so cannot march but I will not and I have told everyone I know, Do Not Watch the inauguration ceremony. If enough people don't watch, the ratings will be down. I would rather watch QVC about a spin mop, it has to be more entertaining than Donald (I just thought, doesn't Donald's head look like a spin mop?).

Oh, and no Trace Atkins or Piano guys for me (not that I would have bought their music anyway). The only act I feel bad for is the Rockettes, who for 80 years have done a G-rated show and now have to dance for someone R-rated.

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navi8orgirl
It is worth noting that there are a metric shit-ton of inaugural balls in DC.

From one article:

Trump will have singer Jackie Evancho singing the national anthem at his swearing-in.

Performers at his inaugural balls include the Radio City Rockettes, The Piano Guys, 72-year-old Tony Orlando and 81-year-old Sam Moore, from the soul duo Sam and Dave, Toby Keith and Lee Greenwood.

The Piano Guys are on record saying it is not an endorsement for the incoming POTUS but a chance to play and make folks happy.