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Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley

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Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
By now most of you know about the tragic situation in Ohio in which a man set free numerous big cats, bears, and monkeys from his "preserve" and then killed himself. Sheriff's deputies then proceeded to have big game-hunter fun shooting all the animals to death, even one that animal control personnel succeeded in hitting with a tranquilizer dart. One spokesperson mentioned a fear that some kid coming home from school might have run into one of the wild animals and been hurt. Some of the animals reportedly behaved aggressively after release, but that isn't their fault.

The sheriff's response outrages me. The nut who had these animals (and had no business having them) had had numerous previous incidents including escaped big cats and an animal cruelty charge. The authorities had responded before. They blooming well could have issued tranquilizer darts to deputies. Now dozens of majestic animals are dead, their carcasses stacked like firewood at one point. You can't tell me that the deputies weren't just festering to take out the lions, cheetahs, tigers, and bears. Yee haw!

People who lived nearby claimed to have feared the animals, with one woman saying she used to hear one lion roaring all night. Many of these people were breeders, it appears.

But the carnage was all for a good cause. After all—think of the children™.

Now excuse K-Man while he calms down and mourns for the poor creatures gunned down through no fault of their own. Damn, I'm upset.
Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
Probably a redneck asshole.
Fuck that shit, seriously.
Think of the children?
FUCK THE DAMN CHILDREN!
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“I don’t have pet peeves, I have major, psychotic fucking hatreds.”
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GAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! The chyldrun, the chyldrun... it's always about the FRIGGIN' CHYLDRUN!

I am now going to toast the drink I'm nursing to the souls of the poor animals. They did no wrong.
Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
It's Ohio. It's a crawling with fucking rednecks who get off on gunning down innocent animals. Not to mention a goddamned Repuke Governor.

Jack Hanna lives in that state! He could have done SOMETHING!

Sick fucks.

After all—think of the children™. FUCK. THAT. SHIT. I'll take a Cheetah over a fucking meatsack ANY day.

Hell, I'll take 50 Cheetahs.
Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
That makes me LIVID.
Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
I saw that shitbag redneck sheriff talking on the news a little while ago and he looked like this was some kind of dream-come-true. He probably had been fantasizing about this very situation from day one.

OTOH, the shitbag owner was in jail for having machine guns. The two of them probably went to high school together and had a personal vendetta going on for years.

The take-home lesson here is that it will be that much harder for responsible wildlife sanctuary/rescue operators to do their thing. You KNOW most of those animals were acquired by other douchebag-humans when they were babies, and then dumped somewhere and became "someone else's" problem.

This is why people shouldn't be allowed to breed ANY animals (even cats, dogs, birds, and reptiles) without a license. There should be an extensive background check and a fee of at least three figures in order to deter irresponsible candidates. Some will still slip through the cracks, but there will be a legal infrastructure in place to deal with that. I can dream, can't i?

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Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
I was APPALLED at how, with are zoo officials and other wild animal specialists either there, on their way, or offering their help to safely capture the animals unharmed, that the sheriff and his posse of fucking redneck deputies loaded up the pick up trucks and basically went on a shooting spree and gunned down every animal "on sight". Worse than that is they seem proud of themselves and the majority of the community are hailing them as heroes! cutting a smiley with a chainsawfuck

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
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Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
There is nothing "heroic" about gunning down defenseless creatures. What also sickens me is that the unstable asshole who kept these animals most likely didn't care for them worth a shit. Yet something else to make me want to apologize for being part of the human race.
Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
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I was APPALLED at how, with are zoo officials and other wild animal specialists either there, on their way, or offering their help to safely capture the animals unharmed, that the sheriff and his posse of fucking redneck deputies loaded up the pick up trucks and basically went on a shooting spree and gunned down every animal "on sight". Worse than that is they seem proud of themselves and the majority of the community are hailing them as heroes! cutting a smiley with a chainsawfuck


Ohio is flyover country and one of our rustbelt states that is rapidly losing population. It's a place where people are living in the past and pretending that the antiquated factory town will be returning to America soon. They're the type of folks who are willing to invest millions of dollars into artificial turf high school football fields, meanwhile the road infrastructure is crumbling and companies are leaving the state. Instead of redefining itself as a state ready to begin building a society ready to welcome the jobs of the 21st century, Ohio insists that it's going to remain in the 20th century.

SIDEBAR NOTE: No offense to any Ohioans on the board. I have been to the state many times and it does have it's good points. I've just known many Ohioans in my life and they tend to fit a particular stereotype.
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October 19, 2011
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I was APPALLED at how, with are zoo officials and other wild animal specialists either there, on their way, or offering their help to safely capture the animals unharmed, that the sheriff and his posse of fucking redneck deputies loaded up the pick up trucks and basically went on a shooting spree and gunned down every animal "on sight". Worse than that is they seem proud of themselves and the majority of the community are hailing them as heroes! cutting a smiley with a chainsawfuck

This why I cannot stand rednecks/teabaggers. The "gotta kill sumthin' to prove my manhood." way of "thinking"angry flipping off

Heroes? REALLY? angry flipping off
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October 19, 2011
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This why I cannot stand rednecks/teabaggers. The "gotta kill sumthin' to prove my manhood." way of "thinking"angry flipping off

Heroes? REALLY? angry flipping off

Those would be the same kind of people who did this in my state

Yep, those vicious Bambis, who knows what kind of danger we were in because that fellow (who had a few minor lapses in dealing with the bureaucracy) made a good home for 'em and took pity on the ones who wouldn't survive in the wild.

Before I delved into the OP's article and read the details, my heart stopped a moment at seeing the headline. I was afraid that they were talking about animals from The Wilds. It's in that area.
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October 19, 2011
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This why I cannot stand rednecks/teabaggers. The "gotta kill sumthin' to prove my manhood." way of "thinking"angry flipping off

Heroes? REALLY? angry flipping off

Those would be the same kind of people who did this in my state

Yep, those vicious Bambis, who knows what kind of danger we were in because that fellow (who had a few minor lapses in dealing with the bureaucracy) made a good home for 'em and took pity on the ones who wouldn't survive in the wild.

Before I delved into the article and read the details, my heart stopped a moment at seeing the headline. I was afraid that they were talking about animals from The Wilds. It's in that area.


MY GOD! They didn't even have a court order to kill those deer! I am appalled at this and although it doesn't say where it was or if it was on acreage or a residential lot in the city, I don't think they had a legal right to kill the deer. I am ashamed to say this is the state where I was born and lived for several years too! What is WRONG with these "authorities" who seem so hell bent on pulling out their guns and killing animals? Why couldn't they at least humanely euthanize them? ALL the other deer were probably terrified as they watched the others being shot down for NO reason.cutting a smiley with a chainsawfuck BASTARDS.

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Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
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This why I cannot stand rednecks/teabaggers. The "gotta kill sumthin' to prove my manhood." way of "thinking"angry flipping off

Heroes? REALLY? angry flipping off

Those would be the same kind of people who did this in my state

Yep, those vicious Bambis, who knows what kind of danger we were in because that fellow (who had a few minor lapses in dealing with the bureaucracy) made a good home for 'em and took pity on the ones who wouldn't survive in the wild.

Before I delved into the article and read the details, my heart stopped a moment at seeing the headline. I was afraid that they were talking about animals from The Wilds. It's in that area.


MY GOD! They didn't even have a court order to kill those deer! I am appalled at this and although it doesn't say where it was or if it was on acreage or a residential lot in the city, I don't think they had a legal right to kill the deer. I am ashamed to say this is the state where I was born and lived for several years too! What is WRONG with these "authorities" who seem so hell bent on pulling out their guns and killing animals? Why couldn't they at least humanely euthanize them? ALL the other deer were probably terrified as they watched the others being shot down for NO reason.cutting a smiley with a chainsawfuck BASTARDS.

They's proofin' thair manhood!
Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
Yes I saw this today too and was very upset also.

I was also rather shocked to see how 'backward' some of these people in Ohio are. I even heard "southern" accents ?

I used to do alot of biz in Cleveland, and I thought it was a nice place. I guess that's the 'big city' though.

Friend of mine, Architect, we recently discussed "The Flats" of Cleveland - I thought this might be going places, a bit of rejuvenation / renewal, he said - no, that's all gone to shit now or never really went anywhere.

Sigh.

I had heard that alot of OH was very 'redneck', I with held judgement as I thought Cleveland was very nice.

It is too bad. The poor creatures sad smiley

In an article I read - someone said they had to kill them because if they tranquilize it might stir them up more ??? and they may run and hide.

I don't think this is a very good excuse.

I know nothing of animal management but common sense says to me that you could still tranquilize and just *take more time and effort* to find them and re home them. I am sure many zoos and legit preserves would've taken them.

It seems to me that they just didn't want to take the time to do it right, and used Teh Chilrens as an excuse to kill them.

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Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
This story is utterly sickening.
If these Ohio cops are anything like the local law enforcement I am familiar with*, then the animals certainly died a horrible death.
I do not agree with the decision to kill--they should have been tranquilized and taken to an another sanctuary.

Story 1: I used to shoot pistol competitively, and several of the guys in the league were cops. We shot stationary targets at 25, 50, 75 and 100 yards. Both Hubs and I won NRA pins for 5 and 10 consecutive accurate shots. The cops we shot with could only hit the target between 10-20% of the time, forget about something that was moving.


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Story 2: A few years back, a deer was hit by a car a few doors down from our house. It had a badly broken leg and could not walk. I called the county sheriff, and the deputy that came out had NO idea where to aim to put that deer down. Hubs had to walk him through it.

Story 3: Hubs came upon a car-deer accident on his way to work. The deer was pretty seriously injured. The sheriff that responded to THAT call had horrible aim and shot the poor animal repeatedly in the face, and NONE of those multiple shots were fatal.

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In our county, we have a tremendous number of car/deer accidents every year. It is appalling to me that these guys have NO idea how to euthanize animals.

*Your mileage may vary.
Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
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There is nothing "heroic" about gunning down defenseless creatures. What also sickens me is that the unstable asshole who kept these animals most likely didn't care for them worth a shit. Yet something else to make me want to apologize for being part of the human race.

You realize the "helpless" animals you are talking about are cats the size of a sofa? There was an attempt to tranquilize them, but the animals were too aggressive. It was not just children they were protecting-would you want horses and dogs and other animals to die horribly? It makes me sick to see these creatures killed like this, but let's put the blame where it belongs-on the selfish ass hat who opened the cages and let these poor animals loose to be killed like this before he took his own life. The officers had a sworn duty to protect the citizens and Jack Hanna admitted this. If the owner of these animals really cared about them, he would have seen to it they were going to be cared for or he would never had unlocked the doors. You are talking like the suicide guy was a saint: he had a prior conviction of animal cruelty.
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October 19, 2011
There was an attempt to tranquilize. A female officer shot one if the tigers with a dart and it became aggressive and tried to attack. Most of the animals were shot at night. Hanna said in a tv announcement that you cannot tranquilize animals such as these at night. They can run off and hide and they are dangerous. He said the officers did the right thing.

Apparently, the owner was very lax on keeping animals secure. He had a prior animal cruelty conviction. At least one animal had a serious disease. I was wondering why they did not tranquilize them myself, but the more I heard, the more I realized the owner was responsible for these animals having to die by putting them into a position where someone would have to shoot them.

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Yes I saw this today too and was very upset also.

I was also rather shocked to see how 'backward' some of these people in Ohio are. I even heard "southern" accents ?

I used to do alot of biz in Cleveland, and I thought it was a nice place. I guess that's the 'big city' though.

Friend of mine, Architect, we recently discussed "The Flats" of Cleveland - I thought this might be going places, a bit of rejuvenation / renewal, he said - no, that's all gone to shit now or never really went anywhere.

Sigh.

I had heard that alot of OH was very 'redneck', I with held judgement as I thought Cleveland was very nice.

It is too bad. The poor creatures sad smiley

In an article I read - someone said they had to kill them because if they tranquilize it might stir them up more ??? and they may run and hide.

I don't think this is a very good excuse.

I know nothing of animal management but common sense says to me that you could still tranquilize and just *take more time and effort* to find them and re home them. I am sure many zoos and legit preserves would've taken them.

It seems to me that they just didn't want to take the time to do it right, and used Teh Chilrens as an excuse to kill them.

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Re: Wild animals slaughtered in Ohio "to protect the children" angry smiley
October 19, 2011
The NY Times is reporting [t]he creatures were eventually hunted down and killed by Muskingum County sheriff’s deputies and other law enforcement officials — at first with handguns, and later with assault rifles — as the animals wandered the property or ventured out of nearby woods.

At least 49 had been killed by Wednesday afternoon, most of them within 500 yards of their pens, including 17 lions and at least one animal described as a big cat that was hit by a car as it tried to cross a street.


First, it doesn't sound to me like they were marauding through neighborhoods trying to eat kids waiting for the bus.
I don't even want to THINK about how many shots from a handgun it took to bring down one of those big cats or bears. This story just keeps getting more awful.
As an Ohioan, this story has been the main topic on every news channel.

First of all, these animals were found to be loose around 5:30 last night. They had an unknown number of tigers, bears, wolves and lions running loose. They were a danger to everyone in that area, and there was zero time to wait for someone to come in with tranquilizers to take these animals down. As it was explained by Jack Hanna, an animal does not drop instantly from a tranq dart, it takes up to 10 mins. And usually when an animal is darted, there is a crew of people surrounding it, ready to put it in a cage or enclosure. The "cages" these animals were held were damaged to ensure that the animals could not be put back. So you have 51 exotic animals running who knows where while the local yokels try to get tranquilizers guns, darts and cages to house these animals? They did dart a Bengal Tiger, and he became more aggressive and ran into a wooded area. I certainly wouldn't want a 300 lb Bengal Tiger hiding out in my backyard.

The fact that these beautiful animals were killed is a terrible shame, but the only person responsible is the sick fuck who let them out. And the dumb fuck of a Governor who allowed an Exotic animal law to expire.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/jack-hanna-on-zanesville-ohio-animals-we-would-have-had-carnage/
Fuck the childryn!
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October 19, 2011
I thought I heard that Jack Hanna was helping. Shooting all the animals? Holy shit...what is this, 1885?

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October 19, 2011
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There is nothing "heroic" about gunning down defenseless creatures. What also sickens me is that the unstable asshole who kept these animals most likely didn't care for them worth a shit. Yet something else to make me want to apologize for being part of the human race.

You realize the "helpless" animals you are talking about are cats the size of a sofa? There was an attempt to tranquilize them, but the animals were too aggressive. It was not just children they were protecting-would you want horses and dogs and other animals to die horribly? It makes me sick to see these creatures killed like this, but let's put the blame where it belongs-on the selfish ass hat who opened the cages and let these poor animals loose to be killed like this before he took his own life. The officers had a sworn duty to protect the citizens and Jack Hanna admitted this. If the owner of these animals really cared about them, he would have seen to it they were going to be cared for or he would never had unlocked the doors. You are talking like the suicide guy was a saint: he had a prior conviction of animal cruelty.

Please look at my second sentence. "What also sickens me is that the unstable asshole who kept these animals most likely didn't care for them worth a shit." These animals had to face a fuckton of people with guns chasing them down. Yes, in that case they were helpless. Again, I'd like to apologize for being a member of the human race. I'd also like to know how that worthless piece of shit was able to keep these animals with an animal cruelty conviction, and while I'm at it, why did the idiots who heard them roaring at night not make any phone calls to complain??? There were other options. They could have been dealt with humanely. I hope the stupid little pissant who kept these animals the way he did has a special reservation in hell.
I fail to see the problem if animals wipe out a small percentage of humans.

We've just hit 7bn, we're hardly gonna die out any time soon, more's the pity.

I really can't my head around the sort of animals you can keep as pets in the US. Almost anything seems to be OK. Do you even need any sort of license?
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I fail to see the problem if animals wipe out a small percentage of humans.

We've just hit 7bn, we're hardly gonna die out any time soon, more's the pity.

I really can't my head around the sort of animals you can keep as pets in the US. Almost anything seems to be OK. Do you even need any sort of license?

Not in Ohio, we have the most lax laws when it comes to keeping exotic animals. You are only required to have a license for animals that are native to the state. The POS involved had 4 licenses to keep black bears. There had been a restriction in place forbidding all sale or transfer of exotic animals, but the Dick in office let it expire. He is more interested in fighting the Public Workers and their Union.
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October 19, 2011
Back in the day, people were allowed to have these creatures. My dad was in an airport in Germany once and felt something rub against his leg. It was one of two cheetahs belonging to this woman. They were on leashes and he said they behaved more like dogs than what you would expect if a cat (cheetahs have some domestication in their backgrounds as they were used for hunting). I recall people keeping ocelots for pets. My dad once had a raccoon and an alligator. I personally had exotic reptiles and tarantulas. My parents knew people who were into falconry and had raptors and I worked with a guy who came from a family that were experts in handling snakes (look up books by Kauffeld). There is an attraction to exotic animals, but there is a great responsibility as well. In NJ, you have to get permits to have even small exotic animals. To own something such as a tiger, you need a dangerous animal permit, which you cannot get with a hobbyist permit.

This guy had people tending to his animals while he was in jail-why didn't he leave the animals with those people? There are zoos such as the Conhanzick Zoo in NJ that has the facilities to take several of these animals and who get their animals from rehabilitation centers and from people who own exotic animals-why did he not contact those places? Instead, he took an action that set most of these animals on a path to their demise (some were captured, btw). I think you are wrong in saying the officers were wanton in killing them-if anything, so far I heard only regrets about killing them. But these creatures' owner set up his animals to be killed by the cops because he himself did not have the heart to make sure they would have a good home. For all we know, he may have even abused these animals.

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There is nothing "heroic" about gunning down defenseless creatures. What also sickens me is that the unstable asshole who kept these animals most likely didn't care for them worth a shit. Yet something else to make me want to apologize for being part of the human race.

You realize the "helpless" animals you are talking about are cats the size of a sofa? There was an attempt to tranquilize them, but the animals were too aggressive. It was not just children they were protecting-would you want horses and dogs and other animals to die horribly? It makes me sick to see these creatures killed like this, but let's put the blame where it belongs-on the selfish ass hat who opened the cages and let these poor animals loose to be killed like this before he took his own life. The officers had a sworn duty to protect the citizens and Jack Hanna admitted this. If the owner of these animals really cared about them, he would have seen to it they were going to be cared for or he would never had unlocked the doors. You are talking like the suicide guy was a saint: he had a prior conviction of animal cruelty.

Please look at my second sentence. "What also sickens me is that the unstable asshole who kept these animals most likely didn't care for them worth a shit." These animals had to face a fuckton of people with guns chasing them down. Yes, in that case they were helpless. Again, I'd like to apologize for being a member of the human race. I'd also like to know how that worthless piece of shit was able to keep these animals with an animal cruelty conviction, and while I'm at it, why did the idiots who heard them roaring at night not make any phone calls to complain??? There were other options. They could have been dealt with humanely. I hope the stupid little pissant who kept these animals the way he did has a special reservation in hell.
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