Truth about SAHMs April 09, 2014 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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More moms are staying at home with their kids full time, and those moms tend to be younger, less educated and more likely to be poor than women who work outside the home, new research finds.
...researchers also argue that many women who stay at home are doing so at least partly because they can’t afford the child care costs and other expenses associated with going to work, especially if they can’t get a job that pays well...
...there has been an increase in the share of moms who said they are at home with their kids because they can’t find a job...
...For many women, Cohn said there are probably a number of reasons — including economic factors, personal preferences and cultural norms — that go into the decision to stay home...
...“Certainly these elite stay-at-home mothers have gotten a lot of attention, but they’re only a small slice of all stay-at-home moms,†Cohn said...
Re: Truth about SAHMs April 09, 2014 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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Techie
This is an old trick. Get knocked up, stay at home, do not work. Even if her man makes very little money.
The idea that SAHMs are not being able to find work does not hold a whole lot of water. Most SAHMs are SAHMs because they did not want to work.
Re: Truth about SAHMs April 09, 2014 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 5,641 |
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StudioFiftyFour
The irony is that people who take the path of least resistance often know that what they're doing is, in the long-term, very stupid. And so, they get defensive by claiming that what they're doing is TMIJITW, and that they are in fact, the smart ones, and the other 99% of the population is completely wrong. That's where the SAHM arrogance comes from.
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StudioFiftyFour
The irony is that people who take the path of least resistance often know that what they're doing is, in the long-term, very stupid. And so, they get defensive by claiming that what they're doing is TMIJITW, and that they are in fact, the smart ones, and the other 99% of the population is completely wrong. That's where the SAHM arrogance comes from.
It looks pretty similar to the effort-justification paradigm for dealing with cognitive dissonance. Basically, if someone puts a lot of effort into something, or has to undergo extreme discomfort for it, they're highly likely to rate that activity in a positive manner.
That's how SAHMs deal with the dissonance that comes from the repetitive, grinding, gross activities that make up the early years of raising children.
Re: Truth about SAHMs April 09, 2014 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 6,607 |
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The increase in SAHMs isn’t fueled by more women wanting to stay at home: As Pew notes, the majority of moms want to work, and the percent of moms who say they ideally do not want to work has dropped over the past decade. It’s not rich women “opting out†or a desire to return to traditional gender roles that’s causing the increase in SAHMs; it’s the lack of jobs and options.
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Re: Truth about SAHMs April 09, 2014 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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cfchevygirl
So, SAHmoos are lazy dumbasses whose main goal is to avoid hard work and be taken care of for life.
Anyone here surprised?
I noticed the Slate article boo-hooed about the cost of chyld-care and the expense of raising a kyd, but didn't mention the vast amounts of welfare handouts -- especially single moos -- get.
Re: Truth about SAHMs April 10, 2014 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 672 |
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stillwaters
I wish they would all stay the fuck home. I can't find a good job, either, and I have a hell of a lot more brains and ambition to offer an employer than some dumb moo who is only filling in time till the next stick turns pink or she lands some new wallet
Re: Truth about SAHMs April 10, 2014 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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Techie
@StudioFiftyFour: You are correct about the "path of least resistance". Article states that vast majority of poor SAHMs are high school drop outs. I guess having nursery in high schools did not encourage them to stay and at least get a High School Diploma.
Fundies always preach that when a woman lives with a man, she is way better off financially. This article proves that there are many poor SAHMs and having a man does not help, especially if he does not earn much.
I suspect that many girls who got pregnant is high school have ended up being money-less SAHMs. I also suspect that many of these SAHMs do not live with a bio baby daddy - they have probably found some pushover to take care of them.
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blondie
If moos would stay out of the way of people who take work seriously and we would not have to compete with them and all their whining and sniffling, and vapid famblee life/work crap, I might not be as disgusted with them. They fuck up employment royally. The world would be a better place if smart ambitious non-placenta brained people ran it. As of now, moos rule. At work, at home, out of the home, online, in public. Wish they would just stay home and sit on their nests or whatever they do.
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Techie
@StudioFiftyFour: You are correct about the "path of least resistance". Article states that vast majority of poor SAHMs are high school drop outs. I guess having nursery in high schools did not encourage them to stay and at least get a High School Diploma.
Fundies always preach that when a woman lives with a man, she is way better off financially. This article proves that there are many poor SAHMs and having a man does not help, especially if he does not earn much.
I suspect that many girls who got pregnant is high school have ended up being money-less SAHMs. I also suspect that many of these SAHMs do not live with a bio baby daddy - they have probably found some pushover to take care of them.
Well, the sheer raw numbers would indicate that, yes, living with someone makes better economic sense when it comes to expenses.
After all, isn't it better to have two sets of income for one set of bills rather than one income for basically the same bills? (Rent/Mortgage, cable, phone, utilities, etc.)
Where the fundies are wrong is the type of man that some of these desperate SAHMs are attracting: broke, low-skill, low-wage, dead-end types of men. Again I'll point to the "Teen Mom 2" television program. One girl has three kids [at age 21!], one with major disabilities, and is on her second marriage which appears to now be crumbling.
So let's say she gets divorced (again). Honestly, what kind of man will want to be with this young lady considering the baggage she's carrying? The answer? Another low-wage, low-skill, no-future loser.
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blondie
If moos would stay out of the way of people who take work seriously and we would not have to compete with them and all their whining and sniffling, and vapid famblee life/work crap, I might not be as disgusted with them. They fuck up employment royally. The world would be a better place if smart ambitious non-placenta brained people ran it. As of now, moos rule. At work, at home, out of the home, online, in public. Wish they would just stay home and sit on their nests or whatever they do.
I agree--but I also think that those who do nothing to contribute to "the system" aren't entitled to any benefits "the system" offers. No food stamps, no welfare, no Social Security, etc. etc. etc.
I'm sorry, but you and I are not worker bees for a small but significant segment of able-bodied people that refuse to participate in the workforce.
Re: Truth about SAHMs April 10, 2014 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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blondie
Only poor loser man will be with her or some bleeding heart. I know guys like this, codependent want to save the moo and prove they are the man.
Re: Truth about SAHMs April 10, 2014 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 3,578 |
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cfchevygirl
So, SAHmoos are lazy dumbasses whose main goal is to avoid hard work and be taken care of for life.
Anyone here surprised?
I noticed the Slate article boo-hooed about the cost of chyld-care and the expense of raising a kyd, but didn't mention the vast amounts of welfare handouts -- especially single moos -- get.
Re: Truth about SAHMs April 10, 2014 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 5,641 |
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StudioFiftyFour
The irony is that people who take the path of least resistance often know that what they're doing is, in the long-term, very stupid. And so, they get defensive by claiming that what they're doing is TMIJITW, and that they are in fact, the smart ones, and the other 99% of the population is completely wrong. That's where the SAHM arrogance comes from.
It looks pretty similar to the effort-justification paradigm for dealing with cognitive dissonance. Basically, if someone puts a lot of effort into something, or has to undergo extreme discomfort for it, they're highly likely to rate that activity in a positive manner.
That's how SAHMs deal with the dissonance that comes from the repetitive, grinding, gross activities that make up the early years of raising children.
Precisely. As a sidebar note, I do understand the validity of staying home for the first few years of a child's life. But beyond that? I can't see any real need for someone to stay at home while her children are in school. I believe as you do that this is a kind of cognitive dissonance or some kind of defense mechanism to justify once again taking a path of least resistance.
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cfchevygirl
So, SAHmoos are lazy dumbasses whose main goal is to avoid hard work and be taken care of for life.
Anyone here surprised?
I noticed the Slate article boo-hooed about the cost of chyld-care and the expense of raising a kyd, but didn't mention the vast amounts of welfare handouts -- especially single moos -- get.
Handouts or no handouts, they need to go get a job! They chose not to use birth control or give larva up for adoption.
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blondie
I never saw the teen moo shows. How do they live? Are they in poverty? Twenty one with three kids, what is their living condition? Must be getting tons of public assistance. Only poor loser man will be with her or some bleeding heart. I know guys like this, codependent want to save the moo and prove they are the man.
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Techie
I see where you are coming from, but would you really want lazy moos in the workforce? All they would do is not work and have us, CF people, pull double duty to compensate. Why not make the dick who knocked them up pay? Why does he not work double duty to pay for the mess that he created? If we do not hold these swinging dicks accountable, they will simply walk around and make more kids with more women.
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Techie
@studio54: All that you said but also, if these boys don't make enough to pay for the offspring, they too do not need to be walking around spraying their seed like a farm fertilizer. They make condoms for a reason. For those who refuse to use condoms, they look like that poor bastard in the picture:
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cfchevygirl
So, SAHmoos are lazy dumbasses whose main goal is to avoid hard work and be taken care of for life.
Anyone here surprised?
I noticed the Slate article boo-hooed about the cost of chyld-care and the expense of raising a kyd, but didn't mention the vast amounts of welfare handouts -- especially single moos -- get.
Handouts or no handouts, they need to go get a job! They chose not to use birth control or give larva up for adoption.
I see where you are coming from, but would you really want lazy moos in the workforce? All they would do is not work and have us, CF people, pull double duty to compensate. Why not make the dick who knocked them up pay? Why does he not work double duty to pay for the mess that he created? If we do not hold these swinging dicks accountable, they will simply walk around and make more kids with more women.