Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways November 13, 2017 | Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 2,062 |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/gene-simmons-women-choose-family-career-article-1.3628084?cache=false%253fq%252525253dxss%2527bouce
This was just on yahoo also but disappeared. He said that moos need to choose to stay home and raise kids or just have a career. The article brought out the "get back in the kitchen" crowd, and there were a few CF women who mentioned moos at work leaving everytime they get a call that their kids sneezed.
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As far as men taking charge of more duties related to the home and child rearing.... bwahahahaha! That's not going to happen! You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
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As far as men taking charge of more duties related to the home and child rearing.... bwahahahaha! That's not going to happen! You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
You know it, I know it, but somehow women who breed don't seem to know it. Seems like again and again they choose to reproduce, and then expect the rest of society, rather than duh, to help them out. People ought to take responsibility for the sexism they enable in their personal lives instead of only complaining about the institutionalized variety.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways November 13, 2017 | Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 651 |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/gene-simmons-women-choose-family-career-article-1.3628084?cache=false%253fq%252525253dxss%2527bouce
This was just on yahoo also but disappeared. He said that moos need to choose to stay home and raise kids or just have a career. The article brought out the "get back in the kitchen" crowd, and there were a few CF women who mentioned moos at work leaving everytime they get a call that their kids sneezed.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways November 13, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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Gene isn't coked out, he never did drugs or alcohol and is vehemently against them.
He shoulda said PARENTS need to decide and can't have it both ways, but let's live in reality....women do most of the grunt work, are the ones most interested in bratz, and are most affected by the coming of bratz in the family unit,....so in someways, it should be directed to them in the real world.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways November 28, 2017 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,712 |
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways November 29, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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I only know a handful of stay at home dads. Their wives earn lots of money and do almost all of the child-rearing and housework. The men are the types who hang out in the garage with their friends and drink beer. No Mr. Mom in these cases. I'd guess there are single dads who have no choice being the primary caregiver but the odds of a man voluntarily staying home while his wife works and being Mr. Mom seem to be very low in reality.
I had a relative who was this way, spent his time hunting and fishing and living on his wife's paycheck. His wife's terminal cancer didn't put a dent in his "lifestyle" either. He had retired from the work force prematurely with some excuse once their house was paid off.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways November 29, 2017 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,712 |
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Speaking generally and broadly, women do not find men who cannot or do not earn a salary at least comparable to theirs, to be attractive.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 01, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 12,434 |
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Speaking generally and broadly, women do not find men who cannot or do not earn a salary at least comparable to theirs, to be attractive.
Ladies, I'll let you be the judge... think about your ideal man. Think about his ideal physique, build, personality, etc. If he wrote this, what would your impression of him be?
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 02, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 7,835 |
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 04, 2017 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 585 |
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As far as men taking charge of more duties related to the home and child rearing.... bwahahahaha! That's not going to happen! You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 04, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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Ain't it the truth! That's why I was laughing at the MRA's on Reddit who were boasting that women would be obsolete when artificial wombs are developed. Yeah, right. Men will just flock to creating children who cost a fortune, take up all their time and money, and need constant care involving disgusting bodily fluids.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 04, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 1,842 |
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An artificial womb? Wow that's exactly what I have always wanted!!!
(Said no man ever.)
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 05, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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An artificial womb? Wow that's exactly what I have always wanted!!!
(Said no man ever.)
Oh, I don't know. You know how some men are into cars and have fancy garages with shiny tool storage, the LED lights, and the floor expoxied? I could see a man who really, really, (I know, yeah right) wanted children could have a garage set up with the pretzel jar in the middle on a mechanic's stool, and all the machinery and wires and tubes in the rest of the garage along with all the life support machinery along the walls. It's a lot less painful for the wife too, as when time is up, it's much less painful to just open the jar!
Might not be a good thing for Thom, it's less business for him with not having to deliver babies in the back of the ambulance anymore.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 05, 2017 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,712 |
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Speaking generally and broadly, women do not find men who cannot or do not earn a salary at least comparable to theirs, to be attractive.
Ladies, I'll let you be the judge... think about your ideal man. Think about his ideal physique, build, personality, etc. If he wrote this, what would your impression of him be?
It really doesn't matter much to me if my partner earns less than I do, because of being in a less lucrative field, not being as advanced in their career, not having advanced degrees, etc. As long as someone is contributing financially, it's fine with me.
I would not be okay with an able-bodied adult who sits at home. I wouldn't be able to do it myself and I could not handle it in a partner. I know there are valid reasons for people to do this (such as mental illness), but that's not something I'd want to deal with in a partner. I am not much of a caretaker.
Oh, and I am not looking for a dad-bod. We all get older, not everyone's in perfect shape, I'm not either...but I'm not celebrating that, just accepting it as part of being human.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 06, 2017 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 3,576 |
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Speaking generally and broadly, women do not find men who cannot or do not earn a salary at least comparable to theirs, to be attractive.
Ladies, I'll let you be the judge... think about your ideal man. Think about his ideal physique, build, personality, etc. If he wrote this, what would your impression of him be?
It really doesn't matter much to me if my partner earns less than I do, because of being in a less lucrative field, not being as advanced in their career, not having advanced degrees, etc. As long as someone is contributing financially, it's fine with me.
I would not be okay with an able-bodied adult who sits at home. I wouldn't be able to do it myself and I could not handle it in a partner. I know there are valid reasons for people to do this (such as mental illness), but that's not something I'd want to deal with in a partner. I am not much of a caretaker.
Oh, and I am not looking for a dad-bod. We all get older, not everyone's in perfect shape, I'm not either...but I'm not celebrating that, just accepting it as part of being human.
I feel the same. Because I don't want kids there is zero pressure to find a high earning man. As long as he can support himself (and at my age isn't living with roommates out of financial need). I limit caretaking to recovery from surgery.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 06, 2017 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 1,109 |
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 07, 2017 | Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 198 |
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His point, however, is not entirely invalid. People have choices in life. Women have choices. If you want to make serious advances in the corporate world, you're going to have to work many hours, and time is finite. It may not be possible to be the greatest parent and a serious corporate executive. There are only 24 hours in a day. If you want the gigantic salary and a high-powered job, kids will likely be an impediment to that.
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As far as men taking charge of more duties related to the home and child rearing.... bwahahahaha! That's not going to happen! You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 07, 2017 | Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 651 |
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As far as men taking charge of more duties related to the home and child rearing.... bwahahahaha! That's not going to happen! You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
Well apparently my boyfriend doesn't know, since we share housework (no kids, obviously)
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 07, 2017 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 3,576 |
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Drawback....I notice these dads now talk about breeding just as much as women. Therefore, going to lunches and parties, there's no where to hide from the baby talk that ensues in the women's group. Many CFs on this board and others said they used to go in the room w/ the men at parties to escape the breeder talk. Now there is no refuge.
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His point, however, is not entirely invalid. People have choices in life. Women have choices. If you want to make serious advances in the corporate world, you're going to have to work many hours, and time is finite. It may not be possible to be the greatest parent and a serious corporate executive. There are only 24 hours in a day. If you want the gigantic salary and a high-powered job, kids will likely be an impediment to that.
The problem is that basically everyone in the corporate world assumes that a woman will have kids sooner or later, and she is going to be the primary caregiver. It affects our career opportunities, our chances to advance, our salaries. Since it's illegal to ask during a job interview, employers are just going to assume we all want kids. Every time a woman chooses to have a kid and be a lazy ass worker, she's not only choosing a life for herself, she's also choosing a life for me, since her choices confirm that women are unreliable workers. It's easy for you to say "women have choices", but many women don't have the choice to explain they're childfree (the employer would most probably think she's lying to get the job).Quote
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As far as men taking charge of more duties related to the home and child rearing.... bwahahahaha! That's not going to happen! You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
Well apparently my boyfriend doesn't know, since we share housework (no kids, obviously)
Re: Gene Simmons says moos can't have it both ways December 08, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 1,842 |
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Drawback....I notice these dads now talk about breeding just as much as women. Therefore, going to lunches and parties, there's no where to hide from the baby talk that ensues in the women's group. Many CFs on this board and others said they used to go in the room w/ the men at parties to escape the breeder talk. Now there is no refuge.