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nightfire
I think what is also the issue is that a lot of companies spewing out a lot of pollution are made to do fuck all, probably because they cry to spineless or greedy politicians that they will have to let go a lot of jobs if they are 'hindered' in any way by regulations and accountability.
So it's not just the irresponsible legions, it's also the top businesses and the politicians that enable them.
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ondinette
Cats require meat, but humans don't. Some people haven't gotten the message and probably never will.
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freya
I've known more than one vegetarian/vegan with a cat. I love to ask about the cat's diet because you know it bothers the plant eater. I think it is kind of weird for a person who vehemently opposes meat in their life "I would never have meat in my house" types to have a cat in the first place. I just hope the kitties in this situation are okay and the plant eater understands the cat's diet is just as important as their diet.
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blackpearl
I will add to this the breeder who barked at me that i'm polluting the world for his 3 children because i fly to see my parents and lately one "eco-breeder" who wished me to die in a plane crash because i was taking sides with the aviation industry.
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I love to ask about the cat's diet because you know it bothers the plant eater.
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Vegans tend to foist their diets onto their children and pets too, and of course they won't own pets that are actually herbivores like rabbits. Nope, they keep carnivorous pets and then feed them pumpkin and quinoa instead of commercial meat-based foods and wonder why their pets are malnourished and miserable.
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Cambion
Nope, they keep carnivorous pets and then feed them pumpkin and quinoa instead of commercial meat-based foods and wonder why their pets are malnourished and miserable. They don't seem to get or care that cats and dogs need meat and that they will get very sick without it. They just want to be able to share on Facebook that OMG look at how CUTE it is that the owner and the pet have matching dinners! Meanwhile the dog is outside eating the neighbor cat's turds because it has a higher meat content than the slop the owner gives it.
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Cambion
Just for the hell of it, I was looking for vegetarian recipes earlier. I don't intend to become a vegetarian, but I would like to try to eat less meat (maybe more fish) and more vegetables. Not for the planet or for social brownie points, but just for me. Ever since I've learned what magic roasting works on vegetables, I can't get enough of them. Hmmm, do we have a vegetarian recipe thread over in The Kitchen yet?
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bop
Guys...just, no. I have been a vegetarian for 30 years and a vegan for 7, and I have lived with cats nearly all of this time. I would never feed an obligate carnivore an improper herbivorous diet. I chose to stop eating animals because I care about animals, and obviously, improperly feeding a biological carnivore isn't caring about animals.
We all know what factory farming is and the fact that we don't do right by the vast majority of commercially raised animals in the world today, and I think if we all could take a step back from the emotionalism of food, most of us could agree that we need to treat farm animals better.
And this is something I've said on here before, but I chose to become a vegetarian as an animal-loving child in an omnivorous household. We don't usually think of it this way, but the choice to eat animal products is based on values and beliefs as much as the choice to be vegetarian. Just as liberals, conservatives, atheists, and believers all raise their families with their own set of values, so do both meat-eaters and vegetarians. As long as the child is eating a well-balanced, nutritious diet, which medical authorities tend to agree vegetarians can, this should continue to be the family's choice. Of course, none of that applies to me or anyone else here, as obviously, none of us have children and dogs and cats are not human children (thank goodness).
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Some people are insanely pro-meat. I eat meat, including beef, and I believe the planet is doomed now no matter what we do. But I also enjoy some meals which do not include meat. I am not trying to save the planet or get healthier, I just happen to like bean burritos and grilled cheese sandwiches. I've met people who refuse to even consider any vegetarian option and cannot comprehend why anyone would. They think meat is essential or at least highly desirable for every single fucking meal they ever eat in their lives. Others don't understand why someone would eat meat at some meals but not all. They think you have to either be a vegetarian or eat meat at every meal. Cats require meat, but humans don't. Some people haven't gotten the message and probably never will.
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We all know what factory farming is and the fact that we don't do right by the vast majority of commercially raised animals in the world today, and I think if we all could take a step back from the emotionalism of food, most of us could agree that we need to treat farm animals better.
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