Boo Hoo...People don't wanna have babees.
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Re: Boo Hoo...People don't wanna have babees. February 04, 2013 |
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solarsong
And I have suspicions that this article is mostly bitching about not having enough white babies.
I was also thinking the same because we also had some mind blowing articles that people here should have more baybees because there are lots of working people retiring soon and there isn't enough workforce and at the same time another newspaper was writing about qualified immigrants who can't find a job. I was just lurking on the Finnish "CF" forum and a breeder was bitching that only Somali immigrants and religious people are having baybees and that they will destroy the nation.
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Enough of the breeding propaganda bullshit eyes2
If everyone is so concerned about the 70+ million baby boomers and how they will fuck government budgets with their medical expenses, they should realize that not even boomers are immortal.
For one thing, they paid into their social security for the most part. Another thing: this dilemma is self-correcting. The oldest boomers are 67 years old this year and the youngest are 49. In 40 years, nearly all boomers are DEAD.
Creating another baby boom can only create another round of handwringing, wailing, and other :BS about who wil payyyyyy for all the old people expenses. Fewer old people, fewer expenses. Especially with a shift in the working models of yesteryear with jobs disappearing to other countries or automation.
eyes2If everyone is so concerned about the 70+ million baby boomers and how they will fuck government budgets with their medical expenses, they should realize that not even boomers are immortal.
For one thing, they paid into their social security for the most part. Another thing: this dilemma is self-correcting. The oldest boomers are 67 years old this year and the youngest are 49. In 40 years, nearly all boomers are DEAD.
Creating another baby boom can only create another round of handwringing, wailing, and other :BS about who wil payyyyyy for all the old people expenses. Fewer old people, fewer expenses. Especially with a shift in the working models of yesteryear with jobs disappearing to other countries or automation.
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Re: Boo Hoo...People don't wanna have babees. February 04, 2013 |
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Enough of the breeding propaganda bullshit
If everyone is so concerned about the 70+ million baby boomers and how they will fuck government budgets with their medical expenses, they should realize that not even boomers are immortal.
For one thing, they paid into their social security for the most part. Another thing: this dilemma is self-correcting. The oldest boomers are 67 years old this year and the youngest are 49. In 40 years, nearly all boomers are DEAD.
Creating another baby boom can only create another round of handwringing, wailing, and other :BS about who wil payyyyyy for all the old people expenses. Fewer old people, fewer expenses. Especially with a shift in the working models of yesteryear with jobs disappearing to other countries or automation.
Right, and how many Boomers are retiring with a pension and benefits? Pensions and benefits are becoming extinct for future generations.
It's Generation X and beyond who are going to need Social Security in the future.
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Re: Boo Hoo...People don't wanna have babees. February 04, 2013 |
From the comments
"The "trouble" with children...
They can have a negative impact on "ME" time: partying, working out, hanging with friends, sleeping around, bar hopping, shopping, etc... Kids can impact career advancement. They cost money to keep around. And according to some they are even a threat to the sustainability of the planet. "
This is specifically directed at women. It is THE stereotype of a Career Woman, Feminazi, or TV character. Also, children do not usually have a negative impact on a MAN'S career.
"Since Americans seem to be focused on pleasing self, children have become a stigma. Unless you are same sex couple. Then having an adopted child is a badge of honor... at least until the novelty wears off."
He's bigoted against gays. Also thinks that they are ALL rushing out to have or adopt kids.
Having more than one child, has become a social "crime".
Oh? From where I sit it's preached NIGHT AND DAY. If anything's a "social crime" it's being CF - and oh look! - here's another article about it - right here!eyes2
"One solution is simply kill the children before they are born. If they manage to survive until after birth, many have pushed for the government to become their primary provider. After all the government can employ child care experts to look after these unwanted nuisances. "Parents" have become nothing more than biological donors that help to bring the child into existence. "
These are the ones that people like YOU suckered into breeding! Deal.
"Of course there was a time in this nation when children were considered a blessing, a gift from God. Dad and Mom found joy in watching their little ones grow and reach new milestones. Fulfillment, hope, and peace came from shared sacrifice and share achievement. Love meant laying down your life for one another and not simply a 30 minute encounter to feed the all consuming lust for self-gratification. "
Uh, Ward Cleaver? Our generation was not the first to toss the Lurving Famblee under the bus. These Aging Baby Boomers that you expect us to bust our cooters on? They weren't exactly paragons of virtue. And neither were their parents - the so called "Greatest Generation"eyes2
"The "trouble" with children...
They can have a negative impact on "ME" time: partying, working out, hanging with friends, sleeping around, bar hopping, shopping, etc... Kids can impact career advancement. They cost money to keep around. And according to some they are even a threat to the sustainability of the planet. "
This is specifically directed at women. It is THE stereotype of a Career Woman, Feminazi, or TV character. Also, children do not usually have a negative impact on a MAN'S career.
"Since Americans seem to be focused on pleasing self, children have become a stigma. Unless you are same sex couple. Then having an adopted child is a badge of honor... at least until the novelty wears off."
He's bigoted against gays. Also thinks that they are ALL rushing out to have or adopt kids.
Having more than one child, has become a social "crime".
Oh? From where I sit it's preached NIGHT AND DAY. If anything's a "social crime" it's being CF - and oh look! - here's another article about it - right here!
eyes2"One solution is simply kill the children before they are born. If they manage to survive until after birth, many have pushed for the government to become their primary provider. After all the government can employ child care experts to look after these unwanted nuisances. "Parents" have become nothing more than biological donors that help to bring the child into existence. "
These are the ones that people like YOU suckered into breeding! Deal.
"Of course there was a time in this nation when children were considered a blessing, a gift from God. Dad and Mom found joy in watching their little ones grow and reach new milestones. Fulfillment, hope, and peace came from shared sacrifice and share achievement. Love meant laying down your life for one another and not simply a 30 minute encounter to feed the all consuming lust for self-gratification. "
Uh, Ward Cleaver? Our generation was not the first to toss the Lurving Famblee under the bus. These Aging Baby Boomers that you expect us to bust our cooters on? They weren't exactly paragons of virtue. And neither were their parents - the so called "Greatest Generation"
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Re: Boo Hoo...People don't wanna have babees. February 05, 2013 |
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Some things from the comments
" Women who will not have kids so that they can make money do not deserve to reproduce their way of life. The future belongs to those willing to sacrifice for their children."
Bingo!
What baffles me about such people - who are doing nothing but parroting 'talking points' some right winger has fed to them - is why they can't see what is right in front of their eyes!
The Over Lords WANT you to breed and 'sacrifice' so they can MAKE MONEY OFF YOUR BACK! Why can't they see this? They even USE the word SACRIFICE!!!
I'm not necessarily passing judgement on this either. It's a feature of Capitalism and other political or governmental ideologies. The boosters of which are now making their wishes clear - they want more babies for *economic purposes*. They make no bones about it now. Some do cloak it in religion, tradition, emotionality.
And this showing of the economic hand is still cloaked in fear (of Social Security collapsing, if not the whole of society. Also includes Xenophobia.)
But, it is out in the open - what they really want: Moar Serfs.
The thing is - the industrialization of society won't support these. Sure you might like more consumers - and bodies to work for you to squeeze that way - but there is not enough work to absorb these bodies (made redundant by technology) - so they can't consume if they cannot make money.
Here in lies the problem. We are no longer operating off manual labor. These people cannot be absorbed.
A certain type of racist Far Right parroter also likes to point out the shit condition that Africa is in. Too many people who are 'useless eaters'. They assume they are lazy.
But many countries in Africa have famine and war and even if you are the smartest guy there like the next Bill Gates looking to build a silicon chip factory - uh, first of all - you have to be able to feed yourself. And if you have to walk miles to water - your time may be kind of taken up with that. And - you will need all sorts of 'things' for your factory - like electricity - and more then likely - your area doesn't have that. And it's too cost prohibitive to do it all yourself.
Lack of resources (food and water) and infrastructure and too many people.
Take a different place. I was just thinking about Hudson Bay, Canada. Not many people live there. Know why? Because it's REALLY COLD. And frozen. What will you eat? You will freeze to death. And there's really not much you can do to 'fix the place up'. Wolverines probably don't even go there.
Unlimited expansion is NOT possible! Some of these nutbags even think we're going to 'colonize space'. Not anytime soon, bucko.
And then of course is the corollary idea that MOAR PEOPLE breeds 'innovation'. To put this in the vernacular - some other chump can clean up the mess. Which is one of the most reverently held tenets of The Overlords.
Fits nicely with YOU! SACRIFICE! too.
These people also hate it when you say NO. This is how you know it's all about them. If something a person does has little to no affect on another - that person is not apt to care. But if their actions (or inaction) - does affect the person - well then they do care and their level of benefit off the actor can be judged by their anger.
I cannot believe people can't see through all this. It's right in front of your face! THEY admit to it! But these people will lick their Master's boots and even give away the most basic of rights. And then parrot their Propaganda on top of it. And they get JUST AS MAD as those who will benefit when you say NO also.
I'm getting onto one of my Anti Capitalist / Corporatist / Fascist rants here, so I'll wrap this up. Just thought of another thing this commenter says -
"The future belongs to those willing to sacrifice for their children."
Can you see how illogical this is? This is outdated thinking. It has been distorted by technology.
The only way this idea works is in the realms of communal living and manual labor. Children are simply no longer worth that much because manual labor is no longer worth that much. If needed at all.
But of course Jesus is coming back soon! Sounds like in the form of some kind of George Jetson guy, some Techno Jebus is gonna innovate us all onto another planet, so don't worry.
This is an awesome post.
I also want to know if Techno Jebus also spins dubstep?
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