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Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal

Posted by freya 
Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 21, 2022
This is a great cautionary tale but is nothing new. Parunts can expect to support their brats up until their mid-twenties in most instances. Another great reason not to overpopulate the earth.

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Our kids now face monthly rent payments that can be more than 50 percent of their take-home pay.

This isn't anything new and many people live this way for most or all of their lives. It is definitely common in younger people.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/let-adult-children-fend-for-themselves-that-s-outdated-in-today-s-economy/ar-AA123kWg?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9442b79917f3475ba0d2822b0a6f09b9
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 22, 2022
Do young adults today not have roommates? Or is it now like, well I can't afford to live the way I want all by myself in my own apartment/house, so (throws up hands) I guess I'll just live with my parents forever. I lived in some dumps in my 20's but that is what I had to do to get ahead.

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Soon enough, they will age out and be on their own. But having gap years between you carrying them and their paying all of their health-care costs can make the difference in them amassing a significant amount of money in an emergency fund and retirement account.

Do we really think that that's going to be what happens with the money they're supposedly saving while living at home? Come on.
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 22, 2022
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freya
This is a great cautionary tale but is nothing new. Parunts can expect to support their brats up until their mid-twenties in most instances. Another great reason not to overpopulate the earth.

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Our kids now face monthly rent payments that can be more than 50 percent of their take-home pay.

This isn't anything new and many people live this way for most or all of their lives. It is definitely common in younger people.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/let-adult-children-fend-for-themselves-that-s-outdated-in-today-s-economy/ar-AA123kWg?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9442b79917f3475ba0d2822b0a6f09b9
That 50% business for rent was true in the 1980s too.
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 22, 2022
I think the article is saying the Parunts can't afford emergency funds and retirement when they are taking care of adult children/


I understand what they've been saying about ecomony. But, I'm with ya, they seem to be like if "I cant have a full house of at least IKEA furniture by myself in the trendiest area of town, I dont want it" No milkcrates furniture for them like young adults did during other inflation and recessions. They dont have roommates becuz they don't have many real life friends. Answering an ad for a roommate would 'creep' them out.

Many of my pal's are dealing w/ these adults and there's no end in sight. I could tell ya a million stories. But they all have a pretty darn good phone, and laptop and camera, and microphone and whatever else they need to game on discord and twitch. They have the clothes they want. The have the concerts they want and their exotic ethnic food nights out all the time(to prove they think about other cultures). None of them have jobs in their majors even w/ a Masters degree. Is it becuz they can't get a job in their major? Possible, but from what I could tell, they dont seem to look in their majors, just want an ez job to cover 'adolescent' needs of pocket money to go out.

But I said it before, why would they leave, their parents act like friends, and granted they are adults even pushing 30, but I couldnt spend my pocket money and live for free, and have overnight guests of the opposite sex if I lived in my parents' basement. They can do all of this, be an adult w/o the adult responsibilities. I'm waiting for my pals to either keel over of a heart attack or join a retirement community before these adults get out of the basements.
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 22, 2022
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Ketchup
Do young adults today not have roommates? Or is it now like, well I can't afford to live the way I want all by myself in my own apartment/house, so (throws up hands) I guess I'll just live with my parents forever. I lived in some dumps in my 20's but that is what I had to do to get ahead.

Roommates are not sufficient to help pay rent in most apartments in the USA, unless you want to live in the ghetto in a three sided shack without electricity and running water. I've three roommates, and we pay a total of $1200 for our subsidized home, but for most homes in this area, the rent for a four bedroom dwelling is at minimum $2000 per month. A two-bedroom apartment is at minimum $1500. Two roommates making $12.80 an hour couldn't rent that.

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Master Of Anti-brat
Excuses!
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 23, 2022
I'm gonna wager that a lot of these adults don't have roommates for one of two reasons: they don't work (which might be due to actual difficulty finding a job or just special snowflakitis), or they have such a collection of real and/or imagined mental disorders that living with someone else and learning how to make compromises as a roommate is too triggering for them (or nobody wants to room with a grown-ass flaptard).

It seems to be the needle in a haystack now for an adult to actually leave home and become independent, but it doesn't help that it's becoming harder and harder to even live with roommates. Rent is sky-high even for total shitholes, everything costs more, more people are fucked in the head and may be too dangerous to live with, and jobs don't pay nearly enough. But parents also make it very comfortable for their adult children to live home indefinitely, starting in childhood giving them whatever they want and never expecting them to do anything. Then they wonder why their 39-year-old bouncing baby boy won't get a job. Well why would he? He's comfortable and has all his needs met.

A vast majority of people I know in their 20s and 30s still live at home, myself included. It's not by choice or due to financial irresponsibility - I just can't afford to live on my own and pay my student loans, and this is the case for several of the folks I know in the same boat. I keep hoping this student debt relief extends to private debt so I can have my own place, because I could swing it on my income. I just can't with $560 a month immediately going to those cocksuckers at Navient.
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 26, 2022
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Cambion
I'm gonna wager that a lot of these adults don't have roommates...


For myself (though I'm also NOT YOUNG) the problem with sharing a living space is, it's damn hard to find someone you trust enough to share a roof with, someone who will pay the bills, not bring home random strangers, or otherwise bring stressful fuckery into your life OR steal your valuables. The older you get, the harder it is to find someone who is not only looking to share quarters, but who will also be responsible and act like, yanno, AN ADULT. It's hard enough living with someone when you love them, let alone a roommate. When someone says, "just get a roommate," they're oversimplifying. There are too many weirdos and psycho nut jobs out there to live with just anyone.
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 26, 2022
I got very lucky with the current crop of roommates I live with. Even though this house is subsidized by a mental health clinic, while we all have diagnoses, there are no crazies in the house.

I wasn't always this lucky, as one roommate I had tried to kill me. No, I'm not being dramatic, as the hospital ER doctor agreed, and after I gave the name of this roommate, the hospital got that woman taken from the apartment. What she did was overdosed me on speed, by slipping it in my food. In the ER, I was given a butt full of sedatives to counteract the speed.

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Passive Aggressive
Master Of Anti-brat
Excuses!
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 27, 2022
some of these mentally ill require institutionalization. sadly not that accessible anymore. the only other option is prison and then the boo hoo goody two-shoes come out and whine about how they can't get treatment..

anyone watch netflix series on jeffrey dahmer? what a fucking nutzoid creep. and I think both gonad donors were batshit as well. but at one point his idiot duh was talking about treatment. what the bloody fuck for? this bastard was unsalvageable ... and a waste of resources...

two cents ¢¢

CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!!

people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children and I defy anyone to prove me wrong

Dysfunctional relationships almost always have a child. The more dysfunctional, the more children.

The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child.

Some mistakes cannot be fixed, but some mistakes can be 'fixed'.

People who say they sleep like a baby usually don't have one. Leo J. Burke

Adoption agencies have strict criteria (usually). Breeders, whose combined IQ's would barely hit triple digits, have none.
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 27, 2022
I saw a video of UC Berkeley students returning to school. There are tons of trendy places to eat just off campus. The many restaurants were OVERFILLED with students and this walk was around all the surrounding streets. It was very obvious this is a commonplace practice and those restaurants likely exist because of the student population. Of course they're all on their phones while eating.

I had those trendy places near my college too, and I think I shopped at them about twice a year on average and window shopped a bit more. I can recall all the times I ate in a restaurant in college because they were so momentous and rare. I can also recall the amount of times I had coffee at a coffeehouse (there was one in a trendy place just off campus which I didn't even know of until my senior year during a study session), went out to a club or had a drink at a bar, but I paid for my own stuff-so maybe that is the difference!

If an adult brat expects to eat trendy restaurant food then good luck ever affording their own place. I've heard of adults (mostly single men) spending thousands of dollars a month on eating out. And if their eating standards are this high, of course they'll only live rent-free with their parunts, nothing else is good enough.
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
September 30, 2022
I also just think things are getting so expensive that is is well nigh impossible to have ones own place. In some houses with decent people, parents and offspring, it may work well. but for those who can't get out it is hell

off topic, we just had a fdny paramedic murdered by the fucking neighborhood mental near where she worked. all she was doing was getting lunch for everyone. and guess what, the fucking mental knew to run and barricade himself wherever. they talked him out. bloody hell with that I would have tossed a few bang and gas grenades in and shot him when he came out...otherwise go in and shoot the motherfucker

two cents ¢¢

CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!!

people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children and I defy anyone to prove me wrong

Dysfunctional relationships almost always have a child. The more dysfunctional, the more children.

The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child.

Some mistakes cannot be fixed, but some mistakes can be 'fixed'.

People who say they sleep like a baby usually don't have one. Leo J. Burke

Adoption agencies have strict criteria (usually). Breeders, whose combined IQ's would barely hit triple digits, have none.

Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
October 01, 2022
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twocents
off topic, we just had a fdny paramedic murdered by the fucking neighborhood mental near where she worked. all she was doing was getting lunch for everyone. and guess what, the fucking mental knew to run and barricade himself wherever. they talked him out. bloody hell with that I would have tossed a few bang and gas grenades in and shot him when he came out...otherwise go in and shoot the motherfucker

Paramedics work their asses off, this is sad. Hope the mental is being put away permanently, it shouldn't come to this.

We've had issues with the fire department (who are attempting to put out fires) and are being harassed and hurt by the homeless people who started the fires. They're getting police escorts because it has become so bad. That is a tough-ass job and the fire department isn't there to harass anyone.
Re: Parunts supporting their young adult brats now normal
October 02, 2022 06:46PM
Where I live, apartments are advertised and priced for "2 working professionals, for example a couple where one is a lawyer and the other is a doctor or Wall St. type." 1 or 2 bedrooms go for several thousand each month, which is more than my monthly mortgage. Last spring I saw a 2 bedroom near me advertised for $3000/month, not including utilities (water, electric, gas, etc). Landlords also demand several years of back taxes to prove high income requirements and run a full background report and credit check before agreeing to rent to a prospective tenant.

With these types of situations, who can afford to rent? In my area, landlords are also increasing rents up to 30% in one year, to recover ASAP what they lost during covid. It's just insane.

My niece and her husband are looking to buy a house and while both are gainfully empoyed with good jobs, there's nothing they can afford near the family.

I think young people are living at home because with the cost of rent, student loans, and healh care, they can't afford even a studio apartment. I can't judge them, I lived with my parents throughout my 20's and 30's to save money (which I did!) and because of low salaries and high rents in my region. And this is an area with high education levels and decent jobs.
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