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It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 01, 2009 |
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Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 01, 2009 |
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Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 01, 2009 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 12,447 |
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Benjie
I'd take it a step further. State IDs now have scanable codes on them. So why not have a food distribution center for those on WIC. When you go in, they scan your ID and see how many people are in your household and give you the bags of groceries themselves. In / out, and we can stop the spawning of piglets.
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Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 01, 2009 |
Well, this is much better than a law passed a few years ago (in Alaska?) that prohibited smoking by anyone (other than parents) indoors when caring for a minor child. You read that right. I gotta find a link to that. It was beyond jacked up. At least this one addresses the real problem. A minor would incur more harm from a smoking parent than a smoking babysitter.Quote
HAHAStupidMOOs
I am lovin it.
I live in california and we have a huge nanny state when it comes to cigarettes. Just a few minutes ago a brand new law just took effect:
You may no longer smoke in any vehicle, whether driving or stopped/parked if there is a crotchdump in the car (anything under 18).
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"We intended for it to apply to anyone who provides child care, because the children are just as precious whether it's a licensed day care or an unlicensed day care," he said.
Co-sponsor Dan Coffey agrees, at least in principle.
"Anybody who puts their kid with a baby sitter who smokes is out of their mind," he said.
Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 01, 2009 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 12,447 |
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Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 02, 2009 | Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 3,073 |
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m4p
Even though I'm in favor of any law that limits moos, I cannot support this new law. This country has become much too much of a Big Brother state for me. What's next?
HAHAStupidMoos
Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 03, 2009 |
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I cannot understand why anyone uses this product, the only one which when used as directed, does only harm to the user and those around him or her. I look forward to the FDA (U.S. Food and Drug Agency) being able to regulate this product soon. I look forward to the tobacco industry getting sued more and more until it goes bankrupt. It is an industry which deserves to go bankrupt.
Smokers don't have to smoke, but non-smokers (and everyone in general) have to breathe. The rights of breathers should always take precedence over the rights of smokers. (This is what I included in every letter I wrote to my state and local legislators.)
Okay, end of rant.
HAHAStupidMoos
Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 03, 2009 |
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Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 03, 2009 |
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HAHAStupidMoos
And for all the assholes that don't want health insurance to cover smoking, by god, make sure the moos give up their IVF and childbirthing hospital care CHOICE... and any other coverage of health problems that are due to CHOICE, which would include my super anti smoking nanny mother in law that had two knee replacements due to her "healthy lifestyle" of dancing and running for 40 years straight. Oh yes, and all the "sports injuries" that all the "healthy non smokers" get, those too are LIFESTYLE CHOICES, none of which deserve insurance coverage any more than my smoking.
Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 03, 2009 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 5,275 |
Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 03, 2009 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 497 |
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Marzipan
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HAHAStupidMoos
And for all the assholes that don't want health insurance to cover smoking, by god, make sure the moos give up their IVF and childbirthing hospital care CHOICE... and any other coverage of health problems that are due to CHOICE, which would include my super anti smoking nanny mother in law that had two knee replacements due to her "healthy lifestyle" of dancing and running for 40 years straight. Oh yes, and all the "sports injuries" that all the "healthy non smokers" get, those too are LIFESTYLE CHOICES, none of which deserve insurance coverage any more than my smoking.
Apples and Oranges, my friend.
Athletics, when conducted properly and in the correct manner, do not lead to life-threatening/limiting, debilitating, expensive to treat illness.
Tobacco, when used properly and in the correct manner, DOES lead to all of the above, and exists only as a detriment to one's health.
Wear and tear on joints due to an active lifestyle, pursuing cardio and muscle fitness is to be expected, and is cheaper to address than the myriad of conditions that inactivity causes, i.e. obesity, diabetes, heart disease, etc. It's like replacing parts on a car due to mileage versus repairing damage from neutral dropping it every time the light turns green, or pouring a 5-pound bag of sand into your gas tank every time you fuel up just for shits and giggles.
If tobacco was some miracle elixir that improved health, then fine, cover it. But it serves no good end. It greatly increases rates of cancer and heart disease, exactly what an active, athletic lifestyle reduces.
With regard to IVF and childbirth coverage, much as I hate to admit it, I am more willing to consider reproduction (less so IVF) a normal & natural human function than smoking, and as such it is more logical to cover it rather than self-inflicted, unnatural conditions such as tobacco-fueled emphysema.
And yes, I am biased. When your best friend buries his mother at the age of 16, you tend to be a bit biased on such things.
If patient 1 has emphysema from 40 years of Pall Mall unfiltereds and patient 2 is a 35 year old man with a twisted ankle suffered during marathon training, I'd sooner see my premiums go towards the latter. The former garners no pity from me. Both are in a manner of speaking, self-inflicted conditions, but there can be no benefit from patient 1's actions, whereas patient 2 is an accident incurred in pursuit of health, a positive goal.
Just my 2¢.
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Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 03, 2009 |
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HAHAStupidMoos
Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 03, 2009 |
Re: It's 2009 MOO, Put out that cigarette pronto! January 03, 2009 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 12,447 |
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HAHAStupidMoos
well, i'll give a little apology here to marzipan and degree... i do get a little emotional about my cigarettes. and sports are as much of a scary mystery to me as cigarettes are to you.
thing is, i do see the e-cigarette as being a solution to the anti-smoker vs smoker war. everyone wins with the e-cig. what gets to me are the anti smokers that just can't let the smokers win, no matter what we do. as you see in that forum i posted, people getting the cops called on them for smoking, and idiots waving their hands and coughing, for fucks sake it is just water vapor. there's a funny breeder story in there of a new duhddy whipping out the e-cig in the delivery room and a lady "smoking" hers in the doctors office the nurses at the drs office were fine with it, it was the other patients that "complained" -- duhddy was too big of a puss to pull it out in front of the doctors in the delivery room, but says he was happy to be able to get his fix while watching the childbirth. damn, i guess that's enough to make anyone want to smoke.