Re: WIC whores bitching about feeding their kids HEALTHY food! October 23, 2010 | Registered: 14 years ago Posts: 12,456 |
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Some people might criticize that as a paternalistic attitude, but I'm quite tired of the idea that we can't criticize anything about poor people, even when it is poor choices or ignorance which has created the situation. How can the problem ever be addressed if there is never an onus on people to better themselves? We should talk about their responsibilities at least as much as we talk about their rights.
Re: WIC whores bitching about feeding their kids HEALTHY food! October 23, 2010 | Registered: 14 years ago Posts: 8,402 |
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yurble
This is turning into a cooking thread!
I go to the outdoor market once a week, and spend between 20 and 30 euros, which gets me 42 portions of veg (3 per day, 2 people, 1 week) and 28 portions of fruit (2 per day). I only buy what looks good and is affordable (i.e. what is seasonal), and then I plan my meals for the week to use up the vegetables in the order in which they will spoil. For instance, right now zucchini and eggplants are very affordable, so I'm going to make ratatouille every other week while the glut lasts, but first I'm going to make something with the cauliflower and beans (perhaps vegetable korma), because both look on the verge of spoiling. It's not hard to eat a balanced, healthy diet if you have some cooking skill.
I'm sure I could eat more cheaply than I do. Because of allergies I buy things like almond milk when it would be cheaper to just do without or make it myself. I also like to get top-quality meat which hasn't been intensively farmed, when I do get meat (which is not so often). I get bread from the bakery instead of the supermarket because I can taste the difference. I don't make everything from scratch, and could no doubt save money by making my own stock, laundry soap, jam, and bread--all of which I have done in the past, but currently lack the facilities for.
I do see some problems associated with simply dumping healthy food on poor people. If people don't know how to cook properly (and it seems that most people don't these days, whether they are poor or not) it really will seem like an impossible problem to them. Perhaps food should be accompanied by mandatory classes to teach people like this basic skills--cooking, cleaning, parenting, budgeting, birth control, etc. People who can demonstrate sufficient knowledge in these areas would naturally not need to participate.
Some people might criticize that as a paternalistic attitude, but I'm quite tired of the idea that we can't criticize anything about poor people, even when it is poor choices or ignorance which has created the situation. How can the problem ever be addressed if there is never an onus on people to better themselves? We should talk about their responsibilities at least as much as we talk about their rights.
Perhaps we should just have a poor people exchange program. Anyone who has been on welfare for too long gets shipped off to a developing country, and in exchange someone who is eager for the opportunity to come here. I'd rather support refugees than generations of poor within my own country.
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kidlesskim
Yurble, our local welfare office has a nutritionist at their disposal for THESE very reasons! They have a "healthy cooking class" one day a month that is FREE for the community as well at our rural electric association. They have hand outs of sample menus as well as basic (and simple) cooking instructions for a variety of nutritious meals that are available AT the welfare office, by mail out upon request, at the library, and for print out online. The information is conveniently available, easily accessible, and it's FREE, so apparently it doesn't make any difference. Even if they just can not grasp creative cooking, it is as cheap and easy to place peas and corn in a microwave as it is a frozen mac and cheese dinner. It is JUST as easy to place a pre-pattied hamburger patty in a toaster oven as it is a frozen pizza. Apples and oranges aren't too difficult to figure out either NOR is it too hard to peel back the top to a cup of yogurt or applesauce.
I do NOT believe that with the ways that many foods are packaged these days that it takes a MENSA candidate to prepare them. The real reason that they do not do it is because it takes effort. Also, I don't give a shit if they can't read labels or understand caloric-fat-sugar content like some of my fellow citizens in this comunity like to argue as the reason for their rampant obesity. ANYBODY, most kyds included, know that "candy is "bad" and fruit is GOOD for you" and they ALSO are aware that fast food is generally "junk" food and that meat and/or vegetables is "healthy". They don't have to be a licensed nutritionist to understand these very basic common knowledge things regarding food and nutrition.:dindin
Therefore, I am of the opinion that the vast majority of them DO in fact know and that they 1)Do not care and 2)Are too damned lazy to plan their shopping lists and their meals. It's easier to go to McDonalds and/or toss a pizza in the microwave. It's like the line from the movie, "Animal House" when Dean Wormer says, ";....Fat AND stupid is no way to go through life......"Apparently this is among their stupid choices and I wouldn't give a damn if the tax payers weren't having to fund their CHOSEN lifestyles.
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kidlesskim
One time in my welfare infested community someone on the local community forum posted a local story about two BIG FAT twin looking cows, moo and moo jr, who were whining about how they couldn't live on $600 a month in FOOD STAMPS, just for the two of them! . . . . The fat moo jr was NINETEEN years old and had already applied for her OWN disability because she had trouble walking and standing, although it didn't specify why.
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kidlesskim
Yurble, our local welfare office has a nutritionist at their disposal for THESE very reasons! They have a "healthy cooking class" one day a month that is FREE for the community as well at our rural electric association. They have hand outs of sample menus as well as basic (and simple) cooking instructions for a variety of nutritious meals that are available AT the welfare office, by mail out upon request, at the library, and for print out online. The information is conveniently available, easily accessible, and it's FREE, so apparently it doesn't make any difference. Even if they just can not grasp creative cooking, it is as cheap and easy to place peas and corn in a microwave as it is a frozen mac and cheese dinner. It is JUST as easy to place a pre-pattied hamburger patty in a toaster oven as it is a frozen pizza. Apples and oranges aren't too difficult to figure out either NOR is it too hard to peel back the top to a cup of yogurt or applesauce.
I do NOT believe that with the ways that many foods are packaged these days that it takes a MENSA candidate to prepare them. The real reason that they do not do it is because it takes effort. Also, I don't give a shit if they can't read labels or understand caloric-fat-sugar content like some of my fellow citizens in this comunity like to argue as the reason for their rampant obesity. ANYBODY, most kyds included, know that "candy is "bad" and fruit is GOOD for you" and they ALSO are aware that fast food is generally "junk" food and that meat and/or vegetables is "healthy". They don't have to be a licensed nutritionist to understand these very basic common knowledge things regarding food and nutrition.:dindin
Therefore, I am of the opinion that the vast majority of them DO in fact know and that they 1)Do not care and 2)Are too damned lazy to plan their shopping lists and their meals. It's easier to go to McDonalds and/or toss a pizza in the microwave. It's like the line from the movie, "Animal House" when Dean Wormer says, ";....Fat AND stupid is no way to go through life......"Apparently this is among their stupid choices and I wouldn't give a damn if the tax payers weren't having to fund their CHOSEN lifestyles.
Re: WIC whores bitching about feeding their kids HEALTHY food! October 23, 2010 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 586 |
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kidlesskim
One time in my welfare infested community someone on the local community forum posted a local story about two BIG FAT twin looking cows, moo and moo jr, who were whining about how they couldn't live on $600 a month in FOOD STAMPS, just for the two of them! . . . . The fat moo jr was NINETEEN years old and had already applied for her OWN disability because she had trouble walking and standing, although it didn't specify why.
Oh, FFS. The fat sow worked at Hardees for what, a year at most, and now is applying for SSI because she's TOO FAT TO MOVE? This sort of shit just pisses me off. Being FAT is not a disability. And I can fucking guarantee you I could cure this fat fuck of her problem. But instead, the taxpayer will kick in with the welfare check, and apparently all too happily, from what the community members were saying, to fatten her fat ass up even more. Maybe if the dumb cow actually had to work for a living she might lose some of her fat.
Re: WIC whores bitching about feeding their kids HEALTHY food! October 23, 2010 | Registered: 14 years ago Posts: 8,402 |
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If for some reason BOTH aren't available, I have teh intarwebz. If these people are too poor to get the internet (which most are not, they somehow manage to pay for that) there is the library. It's within biking distance of the "ghetto" of my city.
Where I live the projects are walking distance from the library, and the ones further out are within biking distance.. So there is internet there and plenty of cookbooks within their reach.
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skysurfer
I love this thread.
I want free food, but I'm not eligible. I just wanna slap the shit out of the ingrates who are complaining. Seriously.
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Melanie
Some famous nutritionist person out there coined the phrase "If you aren't hungry enough to eat an apple, you aren't hungry." I say that should be posted in every WIC, food stamps and food bank office nationwide.
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Ondinette
Isn't it interesting that CF people can come up with plenty of healthy and low cost meal ideas, while the allegedly bigger-brained moos cannot?
There are lots of varieties of canned soup which are pretty decent nutritionally. This time a year they are on sale, so you can get them for as little as 1 dollar per can. I buy two of the same kind and get three meals from that. But this probably isn't a reasonable idea for the lazy moos. It takes too much effort to put those heavy cans in the grocery cart, then put them on the conveyor belt at the register, then put them in the car, then carry them into the house, then get a pot out of the cabinet and open the cans....... Oh the horror! How do I manage to do it?
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yurble
I don't think I would ever voluntarily become a freegan.
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yurble
I don't think I would ever voluntarily become a freegan.
Me either. My frugality ends at the marked down near expired "manager's specials" sections in the meat and produce aisles. Once anything is thrown into a dumpster that's where it can stay as far as I am concerned.