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One thing people fail to understand is that you can be against birthing future tards without devaluing existing ones. No one is suggesting killing Downies who already exist. People with Down's can be very sweet, but what kind of life is that for them? It's not you who will have to go through life with a major disability, so who are you to make the decision for them? It's a LIFE SENTENCE for god's sake.
But to the parunts, disabled kids are a source of attention and sympathy (and sometimes monetary donations) that keeps on giving.
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One thing people are forgetting, or don't even know, is that a good majority of Down Syndrome people will develop early-onset Alzheimer's or other dementia. This wasn't known before because Down folks weren't living that long, but now that they're surviving to their 40s, this extra complication is arising. Which adds another bit of cruelty because even the Chris Burkes will lose whatever autonomy and independence they had.
Re: Dawkins on Down's August 24, 2014 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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Why do these idiot people have these defective units? Mainly Religion. Their churches come off with the "All life is precious" crap. But you never see the churches paying for the care ,feeding and upkeep of these creatures. Last month I was in a medical office for an appointment. The waiting room is full except for maybe 4 chairs. Right next to me of course. Coming through the double doors is this i guess a female tard. The moo and a paid professional handler. Now this was a full blown, M1-A1,crash helmet ,harness wearing ,and had on what looked like boots that they used to walk on the moon. And it was huge,"Why are these types always so friggen big? Oh, also was obviously wearing a diaper, which didn't take long to realize was full. Nice!
Now they the moo and the handler had to slowly walk this thing which had almost no brain capacity into the waiting room. Each step reminded me of fucken Frankenstein. Finally sat it down where it was devoid of any emotion at all. Until about a couple of minutes it stared communicating by stomping the floor and grunting. Slowly getting agitated. You could tell most people in that room at that point wanted to be somewhere else. I however got up and went to the receptionist and told her ill be outside. As I am going for the door moo says to some random asshole in there that :"We get that allot, it doesn't bother me because she is our gift from god" I wanted so bad to say "You should have kept the receipt.
Point is, you know this thing will eventually be put in a nut farm and we taxpayers will foot the bill.
Re: Dawkins on Down's August 24, 2014 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 12,437 |
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I was going to add that it's especially cruel for the high functioning ones : Many of them are smart enough to know and understand that they are not as smart as other people. I had forgotten about the early onset Alzheimer's link. Smart enough to be somewhat independent but to know that others are capable of so much more-and then to have even that taken away.
If they can ever cure and reverse alzheimers, maybe they can cure Down's Syndrome, and vice versa.
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Yup. There is one person I know from the town I grew up in, who is now about 40. His health is failing and he's smart enough to know what's happening. The last time I encountered him, he talked about dying, and whether he'd be around in a few years. He may be high-enough functioning to not have to live in a group home, but he's certainly not stereotypically cheerful. He's well aware of his limitations and it sounds like a horrible life to me.
I don't see treatment for alzheimers helping Down's. Down's is an extra chromosome, which means that every cell in the body has the flawed DNA.
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But the problem is that good times don't last. We're already seeing the comeback of a real barbarian contingent with real teeth, which the world hasn't seen for generations and has no idea how to deal with. The dominant superpower (and babysitter/food-shoveler to half the globe) is running out of money through sheer stupidity and Africa is on the verge of a plague-grade Ebola outbreak. This is just for starters.
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If the Ebola outbreak wipes out much of Africa, we will see increased food supplies and decreased food prices for the rest of the world. Should this happen, I don't see a lack of food being the issue.
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I agree with Dawkins (except on the "try again" bit). I think it's pretty sick to knowingly give birth to a kid with Down's, or any serious disability, really. It's far better to just get rid of it and put it out of its (and everyone else's) misery.
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If the Ebola outbreak wipes out much of Africa, we will see increased food supplies and decreased food prices for the rest of the world. Should this happen, I don't see a lack of food being the issue.
Ah, well. Every cloud, eh?
I always thought humanity was overdue for another nasty outbreak of some fatal disease - just nature's way of correcting overpopulation, in my view. I mean, surely the point of any diseases existing is to ensure that no one species gains the upper hand in an ecosystem. Hasn't worked well for us, but hey-ho.
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Now this was a full blown, M1-A1,crash helmet ,harness wearing ,and had on what looked like boots that they used to walk on the moon. And it was huge
Now they the moo and the handler had to slowly walk this thing which had almost no brain capacity into the waiting room. Each step reminded me of fucken Frankenstein.
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Drlove0378, This experience to me was creepy and unsettling. I'm not joking when I say this creature had maybe 5% brain capacity. I've had cats that were more responsive. Then it would get agitated and stamp its feet ,then the handlers would attempt to control it. Damn right i got up and almost walked out. The gift from god thing really got to me. what a delusional idiot moo she was. Anyone that would knowingly bring something like this into the world is a fucking moron. But hey that's just me!
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595759/Sole-mates-Childhood-sweethearts-Down-syndrome-fitted-custom-boots-Western-themed-wedding-Dallas-vineyard.html
Now they're getting married too like this Tardsome Twosome.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595759/Sole-mates-Childhood-sweethearts-Down-syndrome-fitted-custom-boots-Western-themed-wedding-Dallas-vineyard.html
Now they're getting married too like this Tardsome Twosome.
If they somehow managed to sprog, would the resulting loaf be called a DOUBLE DOWN?